Design Competition - for Marty Rozmanith - REVISED

[Jim Balding]

This competition is in no way connected to or endorsed by Autodesk, Inc. All references to Autodesk have been removed from the previously posted announcement for clarity.

OK all you Revit faithful - here's a chance for glory - and a chance to design my house (remember this is for Marty not Jim). Think of it...the fame...the glamor...the limelight. The winner will take home cash, acclaim and get to have their Revit design built for all of my weirdo friends to see and visit. Further, I will be living with the results...for better or worse.

Those of you who know me know I only post here sparsly...so don't miss this unique opportunity Here are the stats;

The Client: Marty Rozmanith
The Site: Somewhere on Cape Cod, Massachusetts
The Prize: $4000 in unmarked bills (and all the fame and glory you can handle)
The Budget: $120,000 (read the rules for conditions)
The Judges:
- Marty (and his wife, of course)
- Rick Rundell, AIA - Professional Tomato Ducker
- Steve Crotty, R.A. - Boston-area Singer/Songwriter (and Revit guru)
- David Conant, AIA - Zen Mystic and part-time Professor (and Revit guru)
- Matt Jezyk, - Home Remodeling Intervention Therapist (and Revit guru)

The Rules:
- All entrants will submit their designs as Revit models and include PDF or DWF files of presentation sheets
- Submitted designs must meet applicable Massachusetts codes
- Designs must be able to be built within the budget
- Marty's wife carries veto power (in case the judges try to pull a fast one)
- Revit models will NOT be posted/circulated
- Entrants agree to allow Marty to post images of the entries on a website with judges comments
- Judges are not eligible to enter
- See 'General Info' below...

GENERAL INFO:

The site currently has a small 60 year old house on it. You can choose to keep portions of the house, or demolish it. If you choose to keep any portion of the existing house, it will need to be moved to conform to the setbacks, so you will need to allocate $10,000 for building moving. All entrants MUST allocate $10,000 for sitework (including septic system work). All entries will use precast, panelized foundations if possible - allow $65 per LF for any foundations. The rest is up to you.

I will post an DWG plot plan and a Revit model of the existing condition on the customer files newsgroup. Use these to evaluate whether you want to enter. All engineering and permitting are being performed by a company on Cape Cod contracted by Marty. You do not need to allow for these fees.


ENTERING:

Entries are closed. All entrants have been sent the project address, site photos, the building program and desired design criteria. If you have questions, send an email to Marty's Hotmail address (remove the NOSPAM). An engineer is currently producing a topo for the site, and all entrants will receive a topo DWG to create their site in Revit. Please do not send any of this info to others who are not entrants in the competition.

DEADLINES:

Emails expressing interest in entering must be received by midnight EDT Tuesday, Sept 16th. Entrants will receive an email address to send entries to. Competition entries must be received by email (if smaller the 5mb) or on physical media by 5pm EDT October 1st. Entries can be submitted to:

Marty Rozmanith
rozmanith@NOSPAMhotmail.com

GOOD LUCK!

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Marty Rozmanith

[Steve_Stafford]

Great idea!

Here's the but....

Are you asking for construction ready documented designs by Oct 1? I can't help but think that is a bit aggressive? Not to mention skipping right over the design process?

120K on Cape Cod? I don't live there but the village nearby me can't be much different in "price range" and 120 wouldn't be "enough". An 1800 sq ft. house would be in the 200 range....

Just me speculating...I'd love to participate, it would be fun to do but I'm not licensed yet, that bit cuts me off at the knees...can it a wait a few years?

Best of luck!

[Scott Davis]

I thought the same thing, that the schedule was extremely short. I took a second glance to see if it read Oct 1, 2004. I believe this is simply a design competition, and Marty is not asking for CD's. Maybe I'm wrong? I know Revit is fast, but.....

Edited by SD, If you seem to be as brain dead as me, then read on, otherwise skip the following text in brackets: :screwy: {Also, what are the programatic requirements? What is your thought on the size of your home? Maybe this information is reserved only to those who enter? Many questions to be answered, unless you are leaving everything to the designers!}

[Jim Balding]

If you want to enter, send an email to Marty's Autodesk address (remove the NOSPAM). I'll then send you the project address, site photos, the building program and desired design criteria. An engineer is currently producing a topo for the site, and all entrants will receive a topo DWG to create their site in Revit. Please do not send any of this info to others who are not entrants in the competition.


HTH :wink: :wink:

[Scott Davis]

Maybe I should read the WHOLE text, huh???

Thanks JB for making it all too clear so that even I can't miss it! I swear I read it several times and never comprehended the sentence you highlighted above!

[Steve_Stafford]

Me too... :cry: But knowing the level of documentation required would make it easier to decide to email him at all? Guess this shows my newbie stature for a competition. If I'd done one before...I'd already know what was required right :oops: (still think Oct 1 will "narrow the field" quite a bit?)

[LRaiz]

Here's the but....

Are you asking for construction ready documented designs by Oct 1? I can't help but think that is a bit aggressive?

Maybe Marty expected forum members to form a US-UK-Australia team and work about the clock.

[beegee]

May be Marty expected forum members to form a US-UK-Australia team and work about the clock.

OK, I'll be the australian team's project manager. My job is to see all the aussie team members get their work ready to post to the US each evening. I know how it works ! They do all the work, the PM takes all the credit :D

[Kroke]

I'd be willing to take a stab at prelims by Oct 1, but full CD's? :roll:

[Steve_Stafford]

....form a US-UK-Australia team and work about the clock.

Now that's using your head...a true 24 hour work day then! Okay no problem, Beegee better get crankin'...I'm off to bed, taking the first sleep shift!! :D

[beegee]

I'm the project manager designate .... justawaitin for it all to happen.

[Dennis McNeal]

I figure you can afford about 600 square feet of new construction :roll: You need to seriously increase that budget!

[czoog]

I figure you can afford about 600 square feet of new construction :roll: You need to seriously increase that budget!

Not if we pre-fab it :wink: we could probably eek out about 1600sf.

Awesome idea Marty! I will surely enter, especially if it is just design work, and not full cd's. Only problem I can see it the tight time frame, and we would need a little bit more of a program, but it looks like a fun project. 8)

[Marty Rozmanith]

OK - So here's some more info.

First, no whining about the budget. It's part of the challenge. I've already given a hint with the prefab foundations. See http://www.superiorwalls.com if you need more info about these. If you must stretch the budget, then stretch it, but the real challenge is to stay within it, and designs that do will score higher.

This is more like a big addition. There is already 1000SF of house there that you can reuse. You just need to be smart about it. I've already designed a solution that works within the budget, so I know it can be done. As I was doing it, I thought 'Wow - there probably 100 ways to skin this cat, it sounds like a fun competition'. Thus this idea.

Even though I've designed one myself, the prize will be awarded for the best solution (mine is not in the running), so someone's design WILL be chosen.


As far as completion goes, I'm looking for early DD building scale (plan, elev, section) drawings at 1/4" scale and any details that you feel are crucial to the design. The drawings to not need to be CDs and they do not need to be stamped.

This is really for design only. You'll see that the program will revolve around 2 rooms, and that most of the effort should be in designing them.

[Steve_Stafford]

No emoticon for whining...so $$ whine $$ whine $$ whine....

Thanks for the info...that helps a lot, particularly the no-stamp issue for me anyway!

Sounds like fun!

I've already done some stuff with superior walls too....Z, too bad you leaked out your approach, now we'll use it against you :twisted:

[Wes Macaulay]

So is this supposed to be a SIPS job?

Obviously there will be all the info re material selection, but little in the way of detailing, I assume.

Interesting game - the prize money is pretty good for those of us who live by Canadian dollars, eh!

[Roger Evans]

A Really Great idea

I am already starting to feel sorry for the winner~

I suspect all those other non winnners will be forever bitching & pulling the design apart ~

me included!

The object as always is to have some fun.

Roger.

[Vincent Valentijn]

Is this serious? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[czoog]

Is this serious? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

yes, it is.

[Marty Rozmanith]

I'm happy to say that there's been a LOT of interest. In fact, I'm worried about burying the judges with too many entries. Also, I want to give each entrant a decent shot at winning.

So I'm arbitrarily cutting off the number of entries at 20. We currently have 15 entrants. So if you are on the fence, this is your fair notice ;-)

-M

[Les Therrien]

Oh!!! No fair!
You're such a tease <bg>

there's no way I could muster up the time now! Well hopefully this will begin a trend for others to have such competitions.

[Marty Rozmanith]

Hi all,

We got our first entry from Guy Robinson in New Zealand. Guy's solution is an interesting one, and also valid, meeting the program. He claims it took him 5 hours in Revit. He was going on vacation so he just wrapped it up and sent it, knowing he was probably first.

Have a good vacation Guy.

Also, Autodesk legal asked me to revise the announcement to make it clear that this is my own, personal effort. Some of the data has changed, so please re-read it. Thanks.

-M

[Richard McCarthy]

LOL!
And I will be the project lead?! hehe
where are you BeeGee? Brisbane? I am in brisbane too ;)


[quote:2c15a2b714="LRaiz"]
May be Marty expected forum members to form a US-UK-Australia team and work about the clock.

OK, I'll be the australian team's project manager. My job is to see all the aussie team members get their work ready to post to the US each evening. I know how it works ! They do all the work, the PM takes all the credit :D[/quote:2c15a2b714]

[Marty Rozmanith]

Hi all,

Just an update for all on this...

We have 5 entries received and we'll be announcing the winner on Monday.

[Scott Davis]

Marty,

Will you be posting the entries after you pick a winner, so we can see all the different solutions? (and of course, see the how the power of Revit contributed!)

[Marty Rozmanith]

And after all this we have a tie!

The judges felt both designs merited a slice of the winnings, so Armando Arias Del Cid and Greg Demchak will split the $4000 prize.

The judging was held anonymously and ended in a tie. After deadlocking on picking an outright winner, the judges awarded points based on my pre-determined criteria and 2 entries tied, both with 64 points.

We did not use included sheets, as that would have given away the identity of the entrant. Instead I prepared a multipage DWF containing the views in the project. I'll be posting DWF files of what the judges used in the selection here for all the curious.

The designs ranged from the very modern to the traditional. All in all, it was a great way to see Revit being applied to a design problem in by different people with completely different approaches.

Thanks to everyone who entered, and congratulations to the winners!

-Marty Rozmanith

[Marty Rozmanith]

FYI -

The DWF files are posted in the Gallery section of the site...

-M

[Marty Rozmanith]

Scratch that - there is a 2mb limit, so they will be on the customer files newsgroup.

-Marty

[PaulB]

Does this mean you will be constructing two developments ? :screwy: