Workset Issue?

[JayKurtz12]

When isolating views by worksets, I noticed that the insulation doesn't isolate with the workset it is associated. You need to shutoff the insulation through VG separately. The best part is that if for example you shutoff the plumbing piping, the insulation stays. Best part is that the program won't let you select it to hide it in view.

Seems like a glitch in the software.

Anyone else have this issue?

[dennis howell]

Yep, I did a quick test, and verified your findings. However, I didn't find that worksets made any difference to what is happening. I suspect there is not a "solution" to this. Seems to me the Insulation and the Lining needs to be subcatagories of Pipe/Duct rather than their own listing in VG.

[JayKurtz12]

Yep, I did a quick test, and verified your findings.

Good.....at least I'm not crazy.

Now if there was a solution that would be even better

[JayKurtz12]

So upon further review, it appears that ALL pipe insulation is associating itself on our Mechanical workset. Even the Plumbing insulation is on the Mechanical workset. Weird.

[JayKurtz12]

OK, more info.

If you select a piece of piping and hide in view, the insulation does not hide.

[Steve_Stafford]

Assuming 2012...

Insulation should inherit the workset of the element. Duct does not automatically get assigned to a mechanical workset, you have to set the active workset to the one you want, much like setting a current layer first in Acad.

It isn't possible to assign the insulation to a different workset from the host element. I find that if I turn off the workset for say ducts...that the insulation associated with it affected.

The Visibility/Graphics dialog has separate categories for duct/pipe and associated insulation so that you have options for altering how they look...or if they are visible or not. Is there a chance you are confusing worksets with visibility graphics settings?

[gabecottam]

Ran into a similar "Nightmare" upgrading an older 2011 model into 2012. Since the separate insulation categories didn't exist before 2012, Revit wasn't' quite sure how to handle them. Haven't seen this issue yet on a native 2012 model though.

[JayKurtz12]

Ran into a similar "Nightmare" upgrading an older 2011 model into 2012. Since the separate insulation categories didn't exist before 2012, Revit wasn't' quite sure how to handle them. Haven't seen this issue yet on a native 2012 model though.

That could be the issue, it was a project that was upgraded to 2012.

[Jrobker]

That could be the issue, it was a project that was upgraded to 2012.

Guaranteed that is the issue.

This happened on 2 projects upgraded from 2011-2012 for me as well.

[stephen.kalach]

I've just updated a 2011 model as well and have this same issue. Any existing insulation will be set to a default workset, I don't know how this workset is chosen but it is not editable, at least not in a way that is apparent to me. I've tried making the piping editable then selecting edit insulation but the "Workset" parameter is grayed out. However all new insulation is added to whatever workset the piping/duct is. Right now the only work around i see is to select an entire pipe/duct run, remove insulation, then add it back.

I would prefer if Autodesk had the upgrade process more refined so it would recognize that the pipe or duct hosting the insulation is a certain workset and assign it to that. I know they made some changes to how insulation was done but hopefully they could figure out a fix for this.