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mintzengr548172
2015-01-29, 06:07 PM
I just got a computer that has Windows 7 and I want to install AutoCAD LT 2006. The pop-up window says the program is not compatible with this version of windows, and the computer just sits there and spins. Do you know if I can use the two together? Do I have to buy AutoCAD again?

BlackBox
2015-01-29, 08:31 PM
I just got a computer that has Windows 7 and I want to install AutoCAD LT 2006. The pop-up window says the program is not compatible with this version of windows, and the computer just sits there and spins. Do you know if I can use the two together? Do I have to buy AutoCAD again?

Welcome to AUGI.

Too bad you didn't get a new computer with Win8.1 (or did you, and you've just not installed it yet?)... Because Win8.1 comes with Client Hyper-V, which allows you to create and manage virtual machines natively, where you *could* install WinXP on a VM, and then subsequently install 2006 on that instead.

Cheers

jaberwok
2015-01-30, 10:31 AM
Any recent computer is almost certainly 64-bit capabable and is likely to be running a 64-bit version of Win_7.
Your acad LT is almost certainly 32-bit.
It MAY be possible to make it install and it MAY work okay but running (32-bit) WinXP in any of the available "Virtual Machine" products is a better bet.

rkmcswain
2015-01-30, 02:01 PM
.... Because Win8.1 comes with Client Hyper-V, which allows you to create and manage virtual machines natively, where you *could* install WinXP on a VM, and then subsequently install 2006 on that instead.



Is that different than "XP Mode" running in a VM (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7) on Win 7?

BlackBox
2015-01-30, 02:15 PM
Is that different than "XP Mode" running in a VM (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7) on Win 7?

I've never actually done that, so am unsure... As for my comment, I meant to actually install a valid license of WinXP (from their old box? They still own it) onto VM's bootable .VHDx

Perusing the link, it comes off more like a 'parallels' for Windows, just relegated to WinXP (instead of any Mac\Win OS you want).

[Edit] - XP Mode seems to be a feature limited precursor to Client Hyper-V as well.

Cheers

cadtag
2015-02-02, 06:11 PM
I've never actually done that, so am unsure... As for my comment, I meant to actually install a valid license of WinXP (from their old box? They still own it) onto VM's bootable .VHDx

Perusing the link, it comes off more like a 'parallels' for Windows, just relegated to WinXP (instead of any Mac\Win OS you want).

[Edit] - XP Mode seems to be a feature limited precursor to Client Hyper-V as well.

Cheers


well, not according to the Microsoft license agreement. The license goes with the old machine, and can't simply be installed on a different box. even if the old box is being scrapped or converted to Limux. Your thinking makes perfect sense to a user, but not to a vendor of OS software :)

(if the old licenses was a shrinkwrap full retail package, then yes, it could probably be installed - but not a OEM version.


Getting back to the OP -- Try installing the free-to-use-for-any-purpose Draftsight program. If you're using 2006 LT, then the current version of Draftsight is probably going to be a step forward.

BlackBox
2015-02-02, 06:49 PM
well, not according to the Microsoft license agreement. The license goes with the old machine, and can't simply be installed on a different box. even if the old box is being scrapped or converted to Limux. Your thinking makes perfect sense to a user, but not to a vendor of OS software :)

(if the old licenses was a shrinkwrap full retail package, then yes, it could probably be installed - but not a OEM version.


This is a good point to clarify.

Any machine that you order that comes with non-transferable OS (aka OEM) has the product key injected into ROM on the machine's motherboard, and has no sticker from which to identify the product key being used. All machines in this office (I cannot comment for others') that include a sticker with the Win7/8.1 product keys are transferable under the terms of our VLSC, even if purchased through Dell (which all but those we upgraded were).

Also worthy of note, is that Win10 is a free upgrade to any non-Enterprise Win7/8.1 license, so as to increase the adoption, and avoid the issue with Win8 (8.1 has been a fantastic upgrade from Win7, BTW).

Cheers

rkmcswain
2015-02-02, 08:34 PM
(8.1 has been a fantastic upgrade from Win7, BTW).



In what ways?
I really dislike Win8.1, especially compared to Win7.

BlackBox
2015-02-02, 09:47 PM
In what ways?
I really dislike Win8.1, especially compared to Win7.

That's a loaded question, as I manage our IT as well as work in CAD; perhaps you could clarify what you dislike, and I can attempt to offer workarounds?

Client Hyper-V has been the single best improvement for my work, both managing our infrastructure (not just RDP), and for sandboxing Win10 TP, Autodesk Betas, etc., but admittedly, not everyone will have the need for that.

Cheers

rkmcswain
2015-02-03, 12:41 PM
perhaps you could clarify what you dislike, and I can attempt to offer workarounds?



I admittedly do not use it frequently, but first off I have no need for any "touch" capability, so all that functionality is a waste. Secondly, I just do not get the whole interface with the squares.
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What is the point in that? All I really need is the standard taskbar with my 5 or 6 most used program icons. Yes, I know I can "switch over" to the now "old" normal desktop look, but I swear I hit the wrong key about every 5 minutes and BAM, I'm looking at squares again... #frustrating

I am truly open to new things, but if it's not clearly intuitive, then it's not working.

BlackBox
2015-02-03, 02:01 PM
I admittedly do not use it frequently, but first off I have no need for any "touch" capability, so all that functionality is a waste. Secondly, I just do not get the whole interface with the squares.
98978
What is the point in that? All I really need is the standard taskbar with my 5 or 6 most used program icons. Yes, I know I can "switch over" to the now "old" normal desktop look, but I swear I hit the wrong key about every 5 minutes and BAM, I'm looking at squares again... #frustrating

I am truly open to new things, but if it's not clearly intuitive, then it's not working.

Just to be clear; you're using Win8.1, and not Win8, correct?

There are a couple of other buttons that should be shown in upper right for the former (they may just be out of your screen grab).

The Start screen is only shown when you either press the Windows button alone, or move the cursor to the upper right corner, then down the right side, selecting Start. The Start screen is customizable, the tiles have different sizes, and can be grouped as you like. As example, right click Taskbar, choose Properties, and view the options on Navigation tab... You can show your desktop underneath, specify which monitor the Start screen will be displayed, or bypass Start screen altogether, etc.

Ultimately, Start screen is just a glorified Win7 Start menu, which Win10 is bringing back with the addition of Tiles as a combo... Here's an OOTB screen shot I took late last year when testing AutoTURN compatibility:

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Was there anything else?

Cheers