Dimension Orientation - previous threads didn't help

[de-co1]

We have a drawing that uses Real World co-ordinates. Various plans are drawn in separate drawings. We have a user who has tried to copy/paste as well as import (and then explode) a lower floor plan into a particular drawing. The dimension settings between the two drawings are exactly he same, and ensuring the UCS is set up the same in each, then dimensioning in both displays the same results - dimensions shown correctly.

However, when trying to transfer between the drawings, the dimensions on the copied drawing rotate 180 degrees. This is ACAD LT 2000. I have tried the ACAD links Mr Perry has suggested in another thread previously, and followed other threads, but to no avail.

Re-dimensioning works fine, but how do we re-orientate the copied dimensions, when they are exactly the same dimension as the ones in the existing drawing?

I can only imagine that one drawing was dimensioned with the UCS set differently to the other, but can't see an easier way around this other than re-dimensioning. Even trying to re-create the problem doesn't provide us with any solutions.

TIA

D

[Mike.Perry]

Hi

Please post the two drawing files so we can take a look at the issue / problem first-hand.

Have a good one, Mike

[de-co1]

Hi Mike,

I have attached the two drawings as suggested. There are two drawings. The first is a plan by itself. This is what we are trying to copy into the second drawing.

In the second drawing you will see two plans. The one has a line through it (the original plan), and the second has the dimensions copied from the first. As mentioned yesterday, copy / paste and explode creates this problem.

Further to this, you will notice the size of each drawing, and the fact that there are hundreds of layer filters. Other than deleting each of them individually, is there a way in LT 2000 to delete them all at once.

I have just started working here, and their CAD Management is in quite a mess.

TIA

David

[Mike.Perry]

Hi

By previous threads are you referring to the following...

Dimension copying/rotating (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=7211)

How to change dim orientation? (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=10730)

Changing the UCS of an existing dimension? (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=13560)

If yes, that would make sense seeing as they offer LISP solutions.

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As a workaround the following should work (did for me, when tested in AutoCAD 2002) -

Open drawing file "0244-HEA-STAIR3-00.dwg"
Create a WBlock (Test.dwg) of the Objects you require.

Open drawing file "0244-HEA-STAIR3-01.dwg"
Insert Test.dwg making sure you bring in pre-exploded <- That is very important to making this procedure work.
Dimensions should now read correctly.

Please refer to attached ZIP file for further information.


Further to this, you will notice the size of each drawing, and the fact that there are hundreds of layer filters. Other than deleting each of them individually, is there a way in LT 2000 to delete them all at once.Not as far as I am aware, unless you have some Third Party piece of Software that enables ARX, LISP, VBA etc functions/routines to be run in AutoCAD LT.

Have a good one, Mike

[de-co1]

Thanks for that Mike.

Yes, those were the threads.

I think we will have to resort to re-dimensioning, as we need to have the associative dimensions for future editing. For the time being though, and in terms of getting the info out quickly, we will do what you have suggested, and replace dimensions as we go along.

Your help is much appreciated.

David

[Mike.Perry]

I think we will have to resort to re-dimensioning, as we need to have the associative dimensions for future editing. For the time being though, and in terms of getting the info out quickly, we will do what you have suggested, and replace dimensions as we go along.

Your help is much appreciated.Hi

But the Dimensions are still associative (or at least all the ones I just quickly tested).

Does AutoCAD LT have the command _.DimReAssociate ?

No worries...

Have a good one, Mike

[de-co1]

When we explode it, the dimensions explode completely.

No... LT 2000 doesn't have dimreassociate in all it's possible forms, and I can't seem to find anything that would come close to it. In fact LT has nothing!!! :)

I have just moved to this company, and was working on ACAD 2005 up until May this year. It has been extremely frustrating to go back so many versions and try and recall / relearn old ways to do things.

I really miss the small things like refedit, and freezing by picking etc... All the stuff that makes life so much easier, and makes one really appreciate the advances made in the program.

Thanks again

[Mike.Perry]

When we explode it, the dimensions explode completely.Hi

Explode what? please explain.

Have you examined the contents of the ZIP file I posted above (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?p=159813#post159813)...

Within that ZIP file, extract and Open "0244-HEA-STAIR3-01.dwg". You should then see that the Dimension Objects are still associative - this is after I had brought in "Test.dwg" (pre-exploded).

Have a good one, Mike

[de-co1]

I have noticed that your dimensions are all still associative, and couldn't figure out why yours were and mine weren't.

I think I might not understand 'pre-exploding'. What do you mean by "...bring in pre-exploded"?

I assumed exploding the dimensions in the Wblock file, before inserting into the other drawing.

[Mike.Perry]

I think I might not understand 'pre-exploding'. What do you mean by "...bring in pre-exploded"?

I assumed exploding the dimensions in the Wblock file, before inserting into the other drawing.Hi

If using the command line version of Insert precede the name of the Block with an asterisk (*).

OR

If using the dialog box version of Insert tick the "Explode" check box (bottom left corner; please refer to attached screen capture for further clarification).

OR

...

Have a good one, Mike

[de-co1]

That's done it! Thank you.

Is there any reason why this problem is solved through 'pre-exploding' it?

[Mike.Perry]

That's done it! Thank you.

Is there any reason why this problem is solved through 'pre-exploding' it?Hi

No worries... good to hear it is working for you.

I am sure there is some technical reason (maybe something to do with the Object / Entity Co-ordinate System OCS), but my little brain hasn't yet learnt about such things...

Have a good one, Mike