Render Benchmark Results

[christopher.zoog51272]

Please post all benchmark results in this thread. Please include as much info about the computer as possible.

Thanks,

Chris

[christopher.zoog51272]

I'll Start.

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Test Date : 5/4/2004
Test Start Time: 9:26:08 AM

Exterior Rendering: 132 seconds
Interior Rendering: 321 seconds
Radiosity: 147 seconds
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Total Time: 600 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:36:44 AM
Your Score: 157.597173144876
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Dell Precision 650
Dual Xeon 2.66
Intel E7505 chipset 533 FSB
2 gigs DDR Ram
(2) 120 gig 7200 ATA 133 ide drives
Nvidia Quadro FX 1100 128mb
Win 2k SP
8) 8) 8)

[Steven Campbell]

Here is the base system I created the benchmark on. I know time for an upgrade...

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Test Date : 4/30/2004
Test Start Time: 8:37:57 PM

Exterior Rendering: 239 seconds
Interior Rendering: 749 seconds
Radiosity: 425 seconds
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Total Time: 1413 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:01:46 PM
Your Score: 100.1415428167
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Computer Mfg: Home Built
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7DX - 266mhz system bus
RAM: Micron 512mg DDR266 - PC2100
Video: ATI All In Wonder 9000 Pro - 64mg
Hard Drive: Maxtor ATA133 - 60gig
OS: Windows XP Pro - SP1

[Wes Macaulay]

Here's the home PC...

Dell Dimension 8200
WinXP home
512Mb 800 Mhz RDRAM
P4 2.0 Ghz, Intel 845 chipset w/ 400Mhz FSB
nVidia GeForce 4 AGP w/ 64Mb RAM

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Test Date : 06-05-2004
Test Start Time: 20:14:00

Exterior Rendering: 310 seconds
Interior Rendering: 667 seconds
Radiosity: 358 seconds
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Total Time: 1335 seconds

Test Finish Time: 21:21:24
Your Score: 105.65371024735

[SkiSouth]

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Test Date : 5/6/2004
Test Start Time: 10:28:43 PM

Exterior Rendering: 260 seconds
Interior Rendering: 750 seconds
Radiosity: 357 seconds
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Total Time: 1367 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:53:03 PM
Your Score: 103.39222614841


Quad PIII Xeon, Gig Ram Dell Server 6300 with Server 2003, Nvidia Graphics, SCSI Raid Array

[gregcashen]

Dell Precision 450
Dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 2GB Ram
ATI FireGL X1 AGP Pro Video Card

In support of dual procs, I had Excel, IE, TJ-Beam open. I was browsing ZDBB and responding to posts while I ran the test.


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Test Date : 5/4/2004
Test Start Time: 10:41:56 AM

Exterior Rendering: 109 seconds
Interior Rendering: 282 seconds
Radiosity: 134 seconds
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Total Time: 525 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:51:08 AM
Your Score: 162.897526501767[/code:1:83988a1b2c]

Even better for 5.1!
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Test Date : 5/4/2004
Test Start Time: 11:01:55 AM

Exterior Rendering: 110 seconds
Interior Rendering: 172 seconds
Radiosity: 142 seconds
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Total Time: 424 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:09:09 AM
Your Score: 170.035335689046[/code:1:83988a1b2c]


For this one I didn't have any other programs open...

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Test Date : 5/6/2004
Test Start Time: 9:50:40 AM

Exterior Rendering: 108 seconds
Interior Rendering: 277 seconds
Radiosity: 135 seconds
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Total Time: 520 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:59:47 AM
Your Score: 163.250883392226[/code:1:83988a1b2c]

[Nic M.]

Dell dimension 4550
P IV 2.8 / 1GB RAM
ATI 9700 PRO 128MB
Windows XP Home

Test Date : 07/05/04
Test Start Time: 08:55:34

Exterior Rendering: 237 seconds
Interior Rendering: 518 seconds
Radiosity: 272 seconds
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Total Time: 1027 seconds

Test Finish Time: 09:13:05
Your Score: 127.420494699647

[Paul P.]

Excuse my utter ignorance but do I just drag and drop the .txt file as stated, leave it to run and it does all three renering's and give's me the result's.

[melbs19]

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 7:14:07 AM

Exterior Rendering: 117 seconds
Interior Rendering: 293 seconds
Radiosity: 139 seconds
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Total Time: 549 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:23:39 AM
Your Score: 161.201413427562


HP Workstation xw8000
Dual Xeon 3.06 GHz
2 Gig Ram
NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000
Win Xp Pro

[Steven Campbell]

Excuse my utter ignorance but do I just drag and drop the .txt file as stated, leave it to run and it does all three renering's and give's me the result's.
yes

(edit by SD: Yes, drag n drop, let it run, the results will show up in a TXT file in the C:\Revit-Bench folder)

[Scott D Davis]

Specs:
CPU: P4 2.8
Motherboard: HP (not sure of the details)
RAM: 1 GB DDR PC3200
Video: Nvidia Quadro NVS - 64 MB
Hard Drive: Western Digital 40gig - ATA/100 7200 RPM
OS: Windows 2000 - SP4

here's my results:

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Test Date : 05-03-2004
Test Start Time: 8:00:47 PM

Exterior Rendering: 222 seconds
Interior Rendering: 568 seconds
Radiosity: 275 seconds
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Total Time: 1065 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:18:55 PM
Your Score: 124.

[PeterJ]

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 18:46:39

Exterior Rendering: 352 seconds
Interior Rendering: 912 seconds
Radiosity: 433 seconds
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Total Time: 1697 seconds

Test Finish Time: 19:15:50
Your Score: 80.0706713780919[/code:1:cce605066b]

Hmmmm, that is running on my laptop a P4 3.2Ghz machine with a 1GB RAM and an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600, which ought to be quite speedy. I'll run Belarch later and post some more exact specs. The Processor should do hyperthreading, but I had nothing else running while this was going on. The test was run in 6.1.

Running the test on my desktop machine which has a lesser processor it crashed out....

I wonder why so slow.

[Clyne Curtis]

P4 2.40 GHz
512 MB Ram
Integrated Video card 32 MB ram
Windoze 2000 SP4

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 11:00:54 AM

Exterior Rendering: 299 seconds
Interior Rendering: 707 seconds
Radiosity: 337 seconds
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Total Time: 1343 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:23:43 AM
Your Score: 105.088339222615

[Steven Campbell]

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I wonder why so slow.
Did you have the laptop plugged in???
Typically when running off batteries the processor speed is cut down to save on battery life.

[TroyGates]

Laptop w/ Revit 6.0
Intel P4M 2.4 GHz
512MB RAM
GeForce4 440 Go w/ 64MB RAM
WinXP Pro w/ SP1a


Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 3:17:16 PM

Exterior Rendering: 333 seconds
Interior Rendering: 787 seconds
Radiosity: 411 seconds
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Total Time: 1531 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:43:22 PM
Your Score: 91.8021201413427


I plan to upgrade to Revit 6.1 this weekend, I will post results if there is a noticeable difference between the 2 versions.

[melbs19]

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 3:36:15 PM

Exterior Rendering: 220 seconds
Interior Rendering: 570 seconds
Radiosity: 282 seconds
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Total Time: 1072 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:54:25 PM
Your Score: 124.240282685512


Dell Notebook
Dell Latitude M60 1.7 GHz
2 Gig ram

[fernando]

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Base Bench Computer Spec's:
ASUS L3800c Notebook pc
CPU: Intel-Pentium 4 Mobile 2200GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-7DX - 266mhz system bus
RAM: 512mg DDR266 - PC2100
Video: ATI Mobility radeon 7500 - 32Mb
Hard Drive: Hitachi DK23EA-30 - 30gig
OS: Windows XP Pro - SP1



Test Date : 07-05-2004
Test Start Time: 15:37:58

Exterior Rendering: 286 seconds
Interior Rendering: 812 seconds
Radiosity: 355 seconds
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Total Time: 1453 seconds

Test Finish Time: 16:02:45
Your Score: 97.3144876325088

[PeterJ]

Did you have the laptop plugged in???
Typically when running off batteries the processor speed is cut down to save on battery life.

Doh!!

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 22:58:00

Exterior Rendering: 163 seconds
Interior Rendering: 479 seconds
Radiosity: 256 seconds
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Total Time: 898 seconds

Test Finish Time: 23:13:21
Your Score: 136.537102473498[/code:1:975f6748c0]

That's better

[Roger Evans]

New Machine first render

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Test Date : 07/05/2004
Test Start Time: 22:55:39

Exterior Rendering: 171 seconds
Interior Rendering: 532 seconds
Radiosity: 231 seconds
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Total Time: 934 seconds

Test Finish Time: 23:11:20
Your Score: 133.992932862191


Carrera Extreme (UK Co)
Mother Brd Asus
AMD3200+ 64 2.0Ghz 1.5GB Ram
XP Home SP1
Graphics Radeon 256 9600

[Roger Evans]

Old Machine (2years old) results

Makes me wonder if it was money well spent & I'd love to know how to improve my new set up

Exterior render 192 secs
Interior 565 secs
Radiosity 277secs

Total Time 1034 secs

Score 126.925795053004

AMD 2400+ 2.0 gightz
Mthrbd Gigabyte GA7VAXP bus clock 133mghtz
512 DDR 3200
80 Gig Hard drive
Radeon 9700 Pro

[beegee]

I've compiled a spreadsheet of the results to date.

I'll keep updating it as further results are posted.

EDIT: Attachment removed and replaced by new version below.

[Henry D]

Computer Profile:

Windows XP Professional
3.07 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
ST380021A [Hard drive] (80.03 GB)
1024 Megabytes Installed Memory
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X [Display adapter]

Results:

Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 4:45:20 PM

Exterior Rendering: 206 seconds
Interior Rendering: 541 seconds
Radiosity: 245 seconds
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Total Time: 992 seconds

Test Finish Time: 5:02:18 PM
Your Score: 129.893992932862

[Steven Campbell]

Roger,
Is this cpu overclocked??? :shock: It is almost as fast as an Intel 3.0ghrz. :shock: :shock:

Steve


Old Machine (2years old) results
Score 126.925795053004

AMD 2400+ 2.0 gightz
Mthrbd Gigabyte GA7VAXP bus clock 133mghtz
512 DDR 3200
80 Gig Hard drive
Radeon 9700 Pro

[beegee]

More results added to spreadsheet.

Edit: see latest spreadsheet posted hereunder.

[MartyC]

Computer

P4 2.26 Ghz (533 Mhz FSB)
Intel MB
1 gig PC3200 ram
nVidea Geforce 4 Ti 4200 128mb
XP Pro
Revit 6.1


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Test Date : 8/05/2004
Test Start Time: 6:40:39 PM

Exterior Rendering: 290 seconds
Interior Rendering: 756 seconds
Radiosity: 366 seconds
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Total Time: 1412 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:04:44 PM
Your Score: 100.212014134276


I want dual processors and 2 gig ram NOW.............

[Roger Evans]

Hi Steve

Roger,
Is this cpu overclocked??? It is almost as fast as an Intel 3.0ghrz.

Nothing to do with me guv. I avoid messing around if I can. havent done much to it since it came out of the box. So if it is overclocked it was done by supplier.

Peters Laptop is a little faster

Roger

[Roger Evans]

I've just run the test again on new system this time with broadband off
marginal improvement allowing one less sip from my coffee cup

I guess Peter did much the same with his second test

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Test Date : 08/05/2004
Test Start Time: 11:58:43

Exterior Rendering: 172 seconds
Interior Rendering: 531 seconds
Radiosity: 186 seconds
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Total Time: 889 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:13:39
Your Score: 137.173144876325

[Charles Francis]

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Test Date : 5/8/2004
Test Start Time: 8:18:41 AM

Exterior Rendering: 232 seconds
Interior Rendering: 737 seconds
Radiosity: 309 seconds
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Total Time: 1278 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:40:29 AM
Your Score: 109.681978798587

Computer: Home Assembled
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1.4 overclocked to 1.58 GHz
Chipset: nVidia nForce2-ST on Epox motherboard
Ram: 1Gb DDR
Drives: 20 Gb Maxtor
2 Gb Western Digital
Video: nVidia GeFroce FX5600XT w/ 256MB DDR
Operating System: Win2000 SP4

[Paul P.]

Still no joy. :(

Every time I run the test I get a journal error saying the file could not run to completion as the project may be in an unstable state.

Running R6.1 latest build, any suggestions.

Regard's, Paul.

[Scott Hopkins]

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Test Date : 5/8/2004
Test Start Time: 12:31:40 PM

Exterior Rendering: 190 seconds
Interior Rendering: 692 seconds
Radiosity: 293 seconds
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Total Time: 1175 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:51:42 PM
Your Score: 116.961130742049

Computer - Home built
Window XP Pro Service Pack 1
CPU - AMD Athlon XP2400+ (2.01 GHz)
Ram - 512 DDR PC2100
Motherboard - Asus A7A 266 (266 front side bus)
Graphics Card - ATI Radeon 128 DDR
Hard Drive - Quantum Fireball 60.0

[cogen]

Paul P. wrote:


Every time I run the test I get a journal error saying the file could not run to completion as the project may be in an unstable state.


When you unzip the app, let it unzip to the suggested directory. This solved the same problem for me.

[cogen]

Test Date : 5/8/2004
Test Start Time: 10:40:21 AM

Exterior Rendering: 228 seconds
Interior Rendering: 772 seconds
Radiosity: 315 seconds
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Total Time: 1315 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:02:45 AM
Your Score: 107.067137809187

AMD Athlon 2000+
512 MB DDR Ram
80 G Hard Drive
GeoForce4 MX 440
Windows XP Professional SP1

[beegee]

I want dual processors and 2 gig ram NOW.............

Hi Marty,

Dual processors yes, but 1 gig ram appears to be enough for Revit. Look at Steve Staffords two tests. He added 1 Gb RAM to his machine and the time only improved by 2 seconds !

[Cathy Hadley]

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Test Date : 5/7/2004
Test Start Time: 11:36:15 AM

Exterior Rendering: 161 seconds
Interior Rendering: 429 seconds
Radiosity: 191 seconds
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Total Time: 781 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:49:39 AM
Your Score: 144.805653710247

Windows XP Pro - SP1
CPU - P4 - 3.0 ghz w/ 8 kilobyte primary cache and 512 secondary cache
Board - intel D865PERL - Bus Clock - 200 mhz - 800 mhz ATX AGP8x
2 gigs RAM - Kingston - 400mhz DDR PC3200
Nvidia GeForce FX 5700 w/128
Hard Drive 80 Gig - Samsung SATA 7200 RPM w/8MB

[beegee]

Updated spreadsheet.

Edit: see latest posted below.

[MartyC]

Dual processors yes, but 1 gig ram appears to be enough for Revit. Look at Steve Staffords two tests. He added 1 Gb RAM to his machine and the time only improved by 2 seconds !

Hmmm............thats good.

By what the results show, a simple, single processor, cost-effective solution appears to be:

3.2 Gig P4
1 Gb DDR/ fast ram
held together by a good MB with a good bus speed.

Sheeesh, one of those with all the add-on bits complete, only costs about 1,700 Aussie bucks at the moment. Might even get my computer guy to swap my MB and processor. Cheap for up to 81% improvement in speed over a 2.26 P4.

This benchmark is very revealing.

Cheers M

[funkman]

XP Pro 2002
SP
P4 2.42GHz
1g RAM
NVidia GeForce MX440


[code:1:8d2bca8f43]Test Date : 9/05/2004
Test Start Time: 5:40:03 PM

Exterior Rendering: 268 seconds
Interior Rendering: 693 seconds
Radiosity: 288 seconds
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Total Time: 1249 seconds

Test Finish Time: 6:01:22 PM
Your Score: 111.731448763251[/code:1:8d2bca8f43]

[brentcarlson892079]

Home Computer
Gateway
2.5 p4
512mb RDRAM 800mhz
Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 128mb
75gig IDE 133 HD
Win XP Home

Test Date : 5/9/2004
Test Start Time: 11:12:48 PM

Exterior Rendering: 244 seconds
Interior Rendering: 630 seconds
Radiosity: 305 seconds
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Total Time: 1179 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:32:54 PM
Your Score: 116.678445229682

Will run on my work computer Monday

[fernando]

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Test Date : 10-05-2004
Test Start Time: 12:28:27

Exterior Rendering: 165 seconds
Interior Rendering: 416 seconds
Radiosity: 173 seconds
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Total Time: 754 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:41:24
Your Score: 146,713780918728

desktop PC
Intel P4 3.06Ghz HT
Board Asus P4P800
memory 1Gb ddr400 Ram
disk ST360014a 60Gb
graphic card Nvidia GeForce FX5200
Windows Pro SP1

[dnilsson]

Dell Precision 340
P4 2.66
Intel 850E MB
1 gb ram
nVidea GeForce 4 Ti 4400

Test Date : 5/10/2004
Test Start Time: 11:43:36 AM

Exterior Rendering: 313 seconds
Interior Rendering: 610 seconds
Radiosity: 388 seconds
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Total Time: 1311 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:05:55 PM
Your Score: 107.349823321555

[photography67836]

Test Date : 5/10/2004
Test Start Time: 10:26:21 AM

Exterior Rendering: 133 seconds
Interior Rendering: 421 seconds
Radiosity: 220 seconds
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Total Time: 774 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:39:44 AM
Your Score: 145.30035335689

Computer Specs:

Dual AMD Athlon MP 2400+ (2.0 G each?)
AMD-760 MPX Motherboard
1.0 GB Ram
NVIDIA Gforce Ti 4200
Win XP Pro

[Paul P.]

Cogen, thank's for that. Here's the result.

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Test Date : 10/05/2004
Test Start Time: 08:39:51

Exterior Rendering: 245 seconds
Interior Rendering: 859 seconds
Radiosity: 344 seconds
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Total Time: 1448 seconds

Test Finish Time: 09:04:33
Your Score: 97.6678445229682 :(

Computer - NEC Computers Int.
OS - Window XP Pro
CPU - AMD Athlon XP 1800+
1.53 GHz
Ram - Micron 512mg DDR266 - PC2100
Graphics Card - ATI Radeon 9600 - 128 DDR


Time to have a word with the boss I think. (edit SD: another 512RAM would really help you out!)

[mlgatzke]

Just ran the benchmark test on my Notebook and workstations. Results follow:

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Dell Inspiron XPS Notebook
P4-3.2GHz,
2GB RAM
128MB ATI Radeon 9700

Test Date : 5/10/2004
Test Start Time: 1:28:38 PM

Exterior Rendering: 148 seconds
Interior Rendering: 349 seconds
Radiosity: 170 seconds
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Total Time: 667 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:40:04 PM
Your Score: 152.862190812721
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Dell Precision Workstation 450
Dual 3.4GHz Xeons
2GB RAM
256MB NVIDIA Quadro 3000
2-20" LCD Panels on DVI

Test Date : 5/10/2004
Test Start Time: 1:29:26 PM

Exterior Rendering: 76 seconds
Interior Rendering: 189 seconds
Radiosity: 102 seconds
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Total Time: 367 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:35:53 PM
Your Score: 174.063604240283

[christopher.zoog51272]

Just ran the benchmark test on my Notebook and workstations. Results follow:

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Dell Precision Workstation 450
Dual 3.4GHz Xeons
2GB RAM
256MB NVIDIA Quadro 3000
2-20" LCD Panels on DVI

Test Date : 5/10/2004
Test Start Time: 1:29:26 PM

Exterior Rendering: 76 seconds
Interior Rendering: 189 seconds
Radiosity: 102 seconds
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Total Time: 367 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:35:53 PM
Your Score: 174.063604240283

Holy Cow :shock: :shock:

We have a new winner!!! Awesome score! How many of those bad boys do you have? :wink:

[Roger Evans]

Yes a truly exceptional score

It may be worthwhile I think to add another column ie
Cost of System??

From what I've seen here in the UK it seems we pay in pounds for what Americans pay in dollars You quote $1500 check cost in UK £1500 or close to. Very upsetting.

to Paul P and all others wondering about their systems ~
relax it works doesn't it?

Nevertheless this test is giving very surprising results

My Thanks to Steve Campbell et al

Roger

[Paul P.]

Roger, keep it down my boss might hear you. :D

But seriously it's like everything else these day's, people are it too much of a rush for thing's they want it yesterday (especially client's), I have to remind myself that patience is a virtue.

[Scott D Davis]

No kidding! It would literally be faster for me to send Mike my file, let him or one of his students run the rendering, and then ship it back to me! Hmm....you may be on to something there!

[Nic M.]

I still smell rubber

Nice piece of equipment Mike

[Roger Evans]

Paul

Don't believe everything you read here I'm sick as a pig really

I was honestly expecting a much better performance from my new system

If I venture a guess its partly due to the ram I'll be checking this out soon

I keep saying to myself Saving 2 mins or thereabouts is no great deal
but its still nice to know if your system is cutting edge

I'll try and organise a quote on the better systems here to see what UK suppliers can do

Roger

[mlgatzke]

I got 26 workstations and the one notebook, see my thread in the "Specs" thread or see the picture.

Thread
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3777&highlight=dell%2A+jpg

Picture
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/download.php?id=2287

They are nice, but they also cost around 5200USD. That's with our educational discount plus some extra due to a bidding war between Dell and HP. I think these are around 7000USD full-retail. However, how many hours of savings before these begin to pay for themselves? At today's rates, I'd say they'd probably start paying for themselves in about a month or less. There's absolutely NO hesitation in Revit and f8's (Orbit) are fully shaded with no framing or hesitation occuring. And this is without OpenGL accelleration turned on. I've been getting some graphic problems with the OpenGL bit turned on so I've set them with the bit turned off.

[beegee]

All the latest scores, including our new leader ...........

Edit: File Superseded 10 July 04.

[gregcashen]

I got 26 workstations and the one notebook, see my thread in the "Specs" thread or see the picture.

Thread
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3777&highlight=dell%2A+jpg

Picture
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/download.php?id=2287

They are nice, but they also cost around 5200USD. That's with our educational discount plus some extra due to a bidding war between Dell and HP. I think these are around 7000USD full-retail. However, how many hours of savings before these begin to pay for themselves? At today's rates, I'd say they'd probably start paying for themselves in about a month or less. There's absolutely NO hesitation in Revit and f8's (Orbit) are fully shaded with no framing or hesitation occuring. And this is without OpenGL accelleration turned on. I've been getting some graphic problems with the OpenGL bit turned on so I've set them with the bit turned off.

On the other hand, my system, which came in at number 2 so far, was a Dell refurbished, has very similar specs (same model, slower procs) and was purchased for somewhere in the $3200 range...including the 19" fp monitor.

[jbalding48677]

I can add sorting buttons to better analyse the data if you would like. I added 3 in the attached file, let me know if you want me to add them for all columns.

[Roger Evans]

Its difficult to get a true picture on costs because of everyones extras to system like DVD Writers etc
My New System cost £ 1,200 excluding vat at 17.5%
came with DVD writer & DVD plus 2no 120 Gb Sata

No Monitor No Speakers

3 Years on site plus 2year RTB plus software & delivery included

Maybe useful info to someone

Roger

[beegee]

I can add sorting buttons to better analyse the data if you would like. I added 3 in the attached file, let me know if you want me to add them for all columns.

Thanks Jim,

You can still sort the posted file using the standard Excel sort tools, so I don't know if anyone wants the have the macro buttons added, but if you do, let me know.

[beegee]

On the other hand, my system, which came in at number 2 so far, was a Dell refurbished, has very similar specs (same model, slower procs) and was purchased for somewhere in the $3200 range...including the 19" fp monitor.

Its probably easier to compare chip prices rather than system prices, but even that gets complicated if you're talking duals, because then you need a dual mb , matched dual channel ram and even a bigger power supply.

[christopher.zoog51272]

[quote:244e7e58a9="mlgatzke"]I got 26 workstations and the one notebook, see my thread in the "Specs" thread or see the picture.

Thread
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3777&highlight=dell%2A+jpg

Picture
http://www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/download.php?id=2287

They are nice, but they also cost around 5200USD. That's with our educational discount plus some extra due to a bidding war between Dell and HP. I think these are around 7000USD full-retail. However, how many hours of savings before these begin to pay for themselves? At today's rates, I'd say they'd probably start paying for themselves in about a month or less. There's absolutely NO hesitation in Revit and f8's (Orbit) are fully shaded with no framing or hesitation occuring. And this is without OpenGL accelleration turned on. I've been getting some graphic problems with the OpenGL bit turned on so I've set them with the bit turned off.

On the other hand, my system, which came in at number 2 so far, was a Dell refurbished, has very similar specs (same model, slower procs) and was purchased for somewhere in the $3200 range...including the 19" fp monitor.[/quote:244e7e58a9]

Very good point, mine (currently in 4th) is also a Dell refurb, that we scored for $2500 sans monitors (the graphic card alone is worth $895)

You can find some scremers for cheap at the the dell outlet, you just have be patient and wee bit lucky :wink:

[christopher.zoog51272]

Greg, I've been meaning to ask, are you using windows XP, with HT turned on? what is your FSB speed (533 or 800)? Your 2.4's were able to beat out my 2.66's and pair of 3.06's :shock: 8)

[fernando]

i notice that some p4 3.## , specially the ones from steve had a not so good performance, would it be a 533fsb? a no HT motherboard??

but as a conclusion, the most processor the most value, the rest looks minor, in this kind of work


rendering is processor job..............

[brentcarlson892079]

Home Computer
Gateway
2.5 p4
512mb RDRAM 800mhz
Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 128mb
75gig IDE 133 HD
Win XP Home

Test Date : 5/9/2004
Test Start Time: 11:12:48 PM

Exterior Rendering: 244 seconds
Interior Rendering: 630 seconds
Radiosity: 305 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1179 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:32:54 PM
Your Score: 116.678445229682

Will run on my work computer Monday Or Tuesday :?
BTW my home comp cost 1900 us 1.5 yrs ago

My Work Computer:
Test Date : 5/11/2004
Test Start Time: 8:30:05 AM

Exterior Rendering: 186 seconds
Interior Rendering: 470 seconds
Radiosity: 220 seconds
------------
Total Time: 876 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:44:50 AM
Your Score: 138.091872791519

Dell Precision 650
Single Xeon 2.66
Intel E7505 chipset
2.5 gigs DDR 266 Ram
80 gig 7200 ATA 133 ide drive
Nvidia Quadro 4 980 XGL 128mb

Cost $2400 us
A note: This computer is almost the same as zoogs computer, but he has second processor. with 600 sec and 157 score

[gregcashen]

Greg, I've been meaning to ask, are you using windows XP, with HT turned on? what is your FSB speed (533 or 800)? Your 2.4's were able to beat out my 2.66's and pair of 3.06's :shock: 8)

$2,883.00 System 1
Dell Precision Workstation 450 Desktop: Intel® XeonT Processor, 2.4GHz, 512K Cache, 533MHz Front Side Bus, Intg. Gigabit NIC & Audio
$0.00 1 Workstation 450 STD: 3-Yr Ltd Warranty (y1:on-site parts&labor/Y2-3 Parts Delivery)
$469.00 1 Dell 1800FP: 18" Ultrasharp Digital Flat Panel Display (18.1" viewable)
$375.00CR Total discount for system and accessories
$529.00 1 Dell 1901FP: 19 in. Ultrasharp Digital Flat Panel Display


Don't know about the HT issue. I just assumed it was on, but I don't know how to verify this...any ideas?

[Steven Campbell]

Don't know about the HT issue. I just assumed it was on, but I don't know how to verify this...any ideas?

It is set in the bios, the early version of the Xeon were off by default.

Steve

[gregcashen]

[quote:2bc083b66e="gregcashen"]
Don't know about the HT issue. I just assumed it was on, but I don't know how to verify this...any ideas?

It is set in the bios, the early version of the Xeon were off by default.

Steve[/quote:2bc083b66e]

I'll check on it when I get a chance.

[sbrown]

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' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 5/11/2004
Test Start Time: 4:01:24 PM

Exterior Rendering: 178 seconds
Interior Rendering: 344 seconds
Radiosity: 215 seconds
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Total Time: 737 seconds

Test Finish Time: 4:14:02 PM
Your Score: 147.91519434629

system:
Win XP pro v 2002 sp 1
p4 3.20g with HT turned on
2.00 gb ram

[Scott D Davis]

I have a PIII 450Mhz at home, that has 5.1 on it. Its got an ATI 32Mb Rage Fury card, and 384 megs of RAM. Since I know I can't compete with the fastest machine, tonight I'm gonna shoot for the slowest rendering time! Plan on starting it just before I go to bed, and will check the results in the morning. Hope its finished by then!

[sbrown]

Heres my home laptop
Gateway m350
Not to shabby...

p4 2.8
512mb ram

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Test Date : 5/11/2004
Test Start Time: 11:19:39 PM

Exterior Rendering: 221 seconds
Interior Rendering: 471 seconds
Radiosity: 295 seconds
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Total Time: 987 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:36:29 PM
Your Score: 130.247349823322

[sbrown]

While this benchmark is a neat test, it would be neat to run the same thing usiing a large project and see which machines are still standing.

I know my laptop at 512mb ram wouldn't be able to even start half the renderings I've done in the past on a xeon with 2g ram.

Steve can you get the benchmark test updated for a "large project" test. This would give potential hardware buyers a better guage for what they really need.

[Steve_Stafford]

1gb ram, with Hyper Threading disabled

Exterior Rendering: 197 seconds
Interior Rendering: 503 seconds
Radiosity: 242 seconds
------------
Total Time: 942 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:33:31 AM
Your Score: 133.427561837456

Added 1gb of ram for 2gb total:


Exterior Rendering: 196 seconds
Interior Rendering: 502 seconds
Radiosity: 242 seconds
------------
Total Time: 940 seconds

Test Finish Time: 2:23:30 PM
Your Score: 133.56890459364


With Hyper Threading Enabled

Exterior Rendering: 157 seconds
Interior Rendering: 387 seconds
Radiosity: 189 seconds
------------
Total Time: 733 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:23:07 AM
Your Score: 148.197879858657


PC spec's:
Dell Precision
Pentium 4 3.2ghz
1gb ram (increased to 2gb)
NVIDIA GeForce FX5200

[Scott D Davis]

Steve,

Was the Hyperthreading test with one or 2 gigs of RAM? Your last tests were:

1Gig, no HT
2Gig, no HT
2Gig, with HT

correct?

It would be interesting to add 2 Gig no HT to see if there is a difference.

It's interesting that a gig of ram seems to be the max needed.

[Steve_Stafford]

1Gig, no HT
2Gig, no HT
2Gig, with HT

correct?

It would be interesting to add 2 Gig no HT to see if there is a difference.

Correct...but I did the 2 gig no HT you suggest...that's the middle one. Were you suggesting 1 gig WITH HT?

Worth noting that watching the performance monitor will show some page file use even with the 2gb ram since the OS limits access to the ram anyway.

[Scott D Davis]

Were you suggesting 1 gig no HT?

Yeah! Thats what I said! Or what I meant to say....or thought i said.....or oh nevermind! You knew what I meant!

[beegee]

If you're looking enviously at the board leader systems and thinking about price v performance issues, this topic (www.zoogdesign.com/forums/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=24418#24418) is for you.

[Steven Campbell]

While this benchmark is a neat test, it would be neat to run the same thing usiing a large project and see which machines are still standing.

I know my laptop at 512mb ram wouldn't be able to even start half the renderings I've done in the past on a xeon with 2g ram.

Steve can you get the benchmark test updated for a "large project" test. This would give potential hardware buyers a better guage for what they really need.
Scott,
Do you have a project I can use to create it from, and then I will create the script. I originally picked the townhouse sample to base it on to keep the download small, but it would be interesting in a 10 to 15 meg file. It would need to have a good exterior and interior view already setup. Some reflective surfaces and use a couple rpc's and a decal possibly.

Steve

[jbalding48677]

If Scott does not have one (that we can get clearance on), perhaps the Revit 5 Hotel?

[christopher.zoog51272]

If Scott does not have one (that we can get clearance on), perhaps the Revit 5 Hotel?

or the campus library from 4.0 :?:

[Steven Campbell]

[quote:87783d3b7e="Jim Balding"]If Scott does not have one (that we can get clearance on), perhaps the Revit 5 Hotel?

or the campus library from 4.0 :?:[/quote:87783d3b7e]

I think I have the Library some where but I can't remember if it has a good interior view.

Steve

[Scott D Davis]

I think I have the Library some where but I can't remember if it has a good interior view.

and how long does it really take in Revit to create a good interior view? :D

[hand471037]

Here's what I got:

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Test Date : 5/13/2004
Test Start Time: 12:23:42 AM

Exterior Rendering: 169 seconds
Interior Rendering: 436 seconds
Radiosity: 198 seconds
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Total Time: 803 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:37:14 AM
Your Score: 143.250883392226


Sager 4080 - laptop w/ 3Ghz HT P4 'Northwood', 1 gig of Ram, and a ATI Radeon Pro 9600 w 128 megs.

[GeL]

I'd love to see how the Dual Opteron performs against the dual Xeons.

My El Cheapo Dual XP 1800 benches as follow:

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Test Date : 5/21/2004
Test Start Time: 7:22:12 PM

Exterior Rendering: 101 seconds
Interior Rendering: 396 seconds
Radiosity: 181 seconds
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Total Time: 678 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:33:57 PM
Your Score: 152.08480565371

System spec's

Dual XP1800 @ 2.24 Ghz
MSI K7DL motherboard
768 Mb PC2700
80 GB Western Digital HDD
Leadtek Winfast FX5200 128Mb

[Roger Evans]

GeL ~ Thats an impressive result

I'd like to see Dual Opteron Comparison as well ~ also FX51 / Fx53 results

For those interested I've asked a UK Co to help run some tests on various set ups including the above ~ they've agreed to do it but are extremely busy at moment revamping their own site so it may be a good few weeks before we see anything.

Those in UK (Europe?) looking to upgrade could look at their website
www.Demonite.com
They already offer a no suitable systems eg dual Xeon systems plus off the shelf Overclocked systems etc with 5 year warranties

I'll post up test reults whenever received

Cheers

Roger

[beegee]

I think theres little doubt that dual opterons will beat xeons for speed. Just look at Tom's benches for 3D.

[GuyR]

I've not wanted to post a result for my 3.06GHz laptop because it initially scored 85%!!! I started to look at why and finally found the answer today DUST. Blew some compressed air through the outlet fins on the back and as a result got this far more respectable score.

' render-bench5.txt '

Exterior Rendering: 199 seconds
Interior Rendering: 470 seconds
Radiosity: 247 seconds
------------
Total Time: 916 seconds
Your Score: 135.265017667845

3.06GHz, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9100 dell 5150 laptop.

from the dell newsgroups, dust with the inspiron laptops seems to be a common performance problem and design fault.

Guy

[beegee]

Some of my tests indicate that hardrive access speed has quite a bit to do with the render benchmark also.

[PeterJ]

You want a drive that spins at 7200 rpm or you want to consider SCSI.

[christopher.zoog51272]

You want a drive that spins at 7200 rpm or you want to consider SCSI.

or 10,000rpm SATA

[PeterJ]

I forgot that but I believe there are SCSI drives that run up to 15,000

[beegee]

Yes, I'm upgrading to a Raptor 10,000 rpm SATA with 4.5ms read/seek & 5.9 ms write/seek.
Thats close to scsi performance without the large cost.

My current old drives seem to just slow down the whole box, even with dual xeons !

[Steven Campbell]

Here some new results after rebuilding my home computer... I did about a $345 upgrade, new motherboard, cpu, 1 gig ram, cpu cooler.

Standard Configuration:
Computer Mfg: Home Built
CPU: AMD Athlon XP Moble 2500+ (1.83ghz @ 266MHz FSB)
Motherboard: Abit NF7-S
RAM: Kingston 1024mg DDR400 - PC3200
Video: ATI All In Wonder 9000 Pro - 64mg
Hard Drive: Seagate ATA100 - 120gig
OS: Windows XP Pro - SP1

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Test Date : 5/21/2004
Test Start Time: 9:07:22 PM

Exterior Rendering: 204 seconds
Interior Rendering: 587 seconds
Radiosity: 295 seconds
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Total Time: 1086 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:25:51 PM
Your Score: 123.25


Overclocked to 2.2ghz @ 400MHz FSB
Equal to a AMD Athlon XP 3200+
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Test Date : 5/21/2004
Test Start Time: 11:37:00 PM

Exterior Rendering: 164 seconds
Interior Rendering: 479 seconds
Radiosity: 235 seconds
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Total Time: 878 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:51:57 PM
Your Score: 137.95

[GeL]

GeL ~ Thats an impressive result


Thanks Roger. :)

I have had this ageing MPX system close to a year and the half now. Id reckon it'll still have a fair bit of mileage left in it until my next system uograde when the 64 bit computing matures. :D :D




I'd like to see Dual Opteron Comparison as well ~ also FX51 / Fx53 results


Currently with 32bit computing, I reckon the dual opteron will be neck and neck with the dual xeons at equivalent rating. But once 64bit computing is in place in the near future then the scenario may change dramatically.

Same goes with the Fx's against the Intel p4 with HT.

[Steven Campbell]

One more...

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Test Date : 5/26/2004
Test Start Time: 7:41:13 PM

Exterior Rendering: 217 seconds
Interior Rendering: 573 seconds
Radiosity: 281 seconds
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Total Time: 1071 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:59:21 PM
Your Score: 124.30

Computer MFG: IBM T41P Laptop
CPU: 1.7 Centrino with 400MHz system bus
RAM: 1 gig PC2700
Video: ATI Mobility Fire GL T2
Hard Drive: 60gig ATA100 7200rpm
OS: Windows XP Pro - SP1

[Wes Macaulay]

These render benchmark results are all very well, but what about the day to day use of Revit? How long it takes to pan 200' down your fully annotated plan, join geometry between some insane structural creation of yours and an adjacent wall, and then add area bdys into your area plan in a 200Mb file? Is there a general performance benchmark test that could be done? - 'cause that would be really cool.

[beegee]

It can all be done using Journals. Thats how Steven Campbell set up the render benchmark.

[gordolake]

Hi All
Good idea to see comparative hardware results here.

My system:
XP pro
Dual AMD Opteron 242 1.6 Mhz
Tyan Tiger K8W MB
1Gb ecc ram
PNY nvidia qQdro FX500
160 sata HD

Test Date : 10/06/2004
Test Start Time: 12:14:03 PM

Exterior Rendering: 157 seconds
Interior Rendering: 346 seconds
Radiosity: 193 seconds
------------
Total Time: 696 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:25:56 PM
Your Score: 150.812720848057

how does that look ?

im happy anyway.

[tonyisenhoff]

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Test Date : 6/9/2004
Test Start Time: 10:09:12 PM

Exterior Rendering: 162 seconds
Interior Rendering: 414 seconds
Radiosity: 185 seconds
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Total Time: 761 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:22:16 PM
Your Score: 146.219081272085



Laptop: HP Pavillion ZD7000
Intel P4 3.06 Ghz
1 Gig Ram
Nvidia GeForce FX Go5700 (128Mb)
Toshiba 60 Gig HD
Windows XP Pro SP1

[gordolake]

now another with revit 6.1 and xp64

Dual AMD Opteron 242 1.6 Mhz
Tyan Tiger K8W MB
1Gb ecc ram
PNY nvidia qQdro FX500
160 sata HD


Test Date : 10/06/2004
Test Start Time: 2:21:23 PM

Exterior Rendering: 125 seconds
Interior Rendering: 343 seconds
Radiosity: 151 seconds
------------
Total Time: 619 seconds

Test Finish Time: 2:32:03 PM
Your Score: 156.254416961131
hmmm could have been a little better improvment with 64bit !!!

[ita]

beegee, is there an updated spreadsheet for the most recent tests? If so, would you point me in the right direction please?

[beegee]

Sure, Ita and anyone else who's interested, the latest one is .... right here.

Note . xls files are an invalid file type here, so file is now zipped.

Edit 15June 04: - File revised for minor typos etc. ( IIIb )

[beegee]

Hi Gordon,

I assume you ran the "Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for 64-Bit Extended Systems". Released as “public preview”


Firstly, this is exciting stuff – the first 64 bit os test for Revit Rendering. But , of course, running 32 bit apps.


You tests indicate a much better performance increase from 32 to 64 bit than I would have expected. Most indications I’ve seen, have been to expect between 5 to 15%, but yours are showing 35%! …..Wow.


32-bit applications running on a 64-bit OS will see little to no performance benefit, and in some occasions, will see slight performance decreasesThis has been particularly true for games.

Intel's 64-bit Itanium and Itanium2 processors can run 64-bit and 32-bit programs simultaneously, but Itanium handles 32-bit software through emulation. This is expected to cause a performance hit for these chips running current 32 bit programmes. On the other hand, AMD’s 64 architecture basically translates 32-bit function calls to 64-bit for the OS to understand it. This is called WoW64 ( Windows on Windows ) and makes it sound as though there is another 32-bit version of Windows running on top of the 64-bit variant, but this is not the case


… WoW64 does not have the performance penalties that full-scale 32-bit emulation incurs. But, as the CPU is translating 32-bit calls into 64-bit calls, there is always a bit of performance overhead, which takes away speed from the application

The big problem at the moment, and one that surprisingly didn’t seem to impact much on your tests, is the lack of compatible component drivers for the 64 bit os. Did you install a new 64 bit driver for your nVidia ? ( there is one on their website )


To put it in simple terms, 32-bit device drivers on the market today simply will not work. A 32-bit operating system means all drivers must be 32-bit code, whereas a 64-bit operating system means all drivers must be 64-bit code. While the CPU itself is 32/64-bit compliant, Windows is stubborn about requiring 64-bit drivers for operation




now another with revit 6.1 and xp64

Dual AMD Opteron 242 1.6 Mhz
Tyan Tiger K8W MB
1Gb ecc ram
PNY nvidia qQdro FX500
160 sata HD


Test Date : 10/06/2004
Test Start Time: 2:21:23 PM

Exterior Rendering: 125 seconds
Interior Rendering: 343 seconds
Radiosity: 151 seconds
------------
Total Time: 619 seconds

Test Finish Time: 2:32:03 PM
Your Score: 156.254416961131
hmmm could have been a little better improvment with 64bit !!!

[gordolake]

I assume you ran the "Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for 64-Bit Extended Systems". Released as “public preview”

yes that is correct and i assumed it installed in extended mode with the opteron cpus' at installation.

as i said i havent had time to get it up and running as the default OS yet. It resides on second partiton as dual boot configuratiuon on single HD.


You tests indicate a much better performance increase from 32 to 64 bit than I would have expected. Most indications I’ve seen, have been to expect between 5 to 15%, but yours are showing 35%!

i think its more like 3.6% (score of 150.8 and 156.25) i hoped it would be more but obviously theres not much call for OS during rendering (disk reads and writes etc.) ?



The big problem at the moment, and one that surprisingly didn’t seem to impact much on your tests, is the lack of compatible component drivers for the 64 bit os. Did you install a new 64 bit driver for your nVidia ?


yes i have a xp64 bir nvidia driver maybe not the latest ill check.

missing 64bit driver for lan card (ot supported.) will have to locate 64bit compatible type only 10meg dinasour.

[beegee]

i think its more like 3.6% (score of 150.8 and 156.25) i hoped it would be more but obviously theres not much call for OS during rendering (disk reads and writes etc.) ?




I based it on the total rendering time, not the score, which is just a rationalisation of the time. The total time for the 64 was 619 secs compared tp 966 secs for the 32 bit XP. Thats an impressive improvement in my book.

[gordolake]

UMM

XP PRO REVIT 6.0 RENDER TIME=696
XP 64 REVIT 6.1 RENDER TIME=619 (NOT 966)

11% NOT TO BAD I GUESS.

[beegee]

OK, I've fixed that on the spreadsheet now.

Yes, 11 % is a good improvement. ;)

[alpfra]

Hi to all
wher i can find txt file for bench??
Thnx

[Scott D Davis]

It can be found at This Thread. (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689)

It's a self-extracting ZIP file which contains all necessary files.

[alpfra]

Thanks Scott!!
I try and if i could i post the bench.

[alpfra]

My results
Notebook Pentium4 2.8 GHz
512 MB ram
Ati Radeon IGP 345M 64MB shared
HD 40GB

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 05/07/2004
Test Start Time: 20.26.58

Exterior Rendering: 235 seconds
Interior Rendering: 708 seconds
Radiosity: 297 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1240 seconds

Test Finish Time: 20.47.49
Your Score: 112,367491166078

If someone is interested i have translated the TXT for Revit 6.1 Italian
with the original version i had always errors.

Regards

[anond]

Where con i get hold of this benchmark file?

[beegee]

Where con i get hold of this benchmark file?
CLICK HERE. (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689&highlight=benchmark)

[anond]

Using SCSI harddisks frees up the CPU. Two CPUs are far better than one fast CPU.

[gregcashen]

Using SCSI harddisks frees up the CPU. Two CPUs are far better than one fast CPU.

That might explain my computer's performance (#2 I think). I have dual 30GB SCSI HDs as well as the dual procs. Good info.

[deanklear]

eMachines m6805 Laptop (not overclocked)
Athlon 64 3000+
512MB RAM
Upgraded 7200 RPM HDD
Radeon 9600 64MB (non-integrated)


Test Date : 7/27/2004
Test Start Time: 8:49:00 AM

Exterior Rendering: 195 seconds
Interior Rendering: 551 seconds
Radiosity: 237 seconds
------------
Total Time: 983 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:05:42 AM
Your Score: 130.530035335689

[Nelson V]

Test Date : 8/19/2004
Test Start Time: 7:44:51 AM

Exterior Rendering: 85 seconds
Interior Rendering: 209 seconds
Radiosity: 93 seconds
------------
Total Time: 387 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:51:39 AM
Your Score: 172.650176678445

Dell Workstation PWS670
Xeon CPU 3.20 GHz
2.00 GB of RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX3400 256MB

[brett05]

Test Date : 1/10/2004
Test Start Time: 8:57:56 AM

Exterior Rendering: 95 seconds
Interior Rendering: 242 seconds
Radiosity: 117 seconds
------------
Total Time: 454 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:05:39 AM
Your Score: 167.91519434629

Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz CPU HT Enabled
2Gb RAM
NVidia Quadro FX500 128Mb

[James.Lupton]

Can anyone tell me where to get hold of the benchmark files to allow us to run the tests on our systems.

[beegee]

Render Benchmark Test here (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689&highlight=benchmark).

[c-hawk]

1st Test ... Not bad for a $1000 box (excluding monitor)

Dell Precision 360 w/ HT
P4 2.8 800FSB
1Gb DDR RAM
nVidia QuadroFX 500

Test Date : 10/6/2004
Test Start Time: 10:57:57 AM

Exterior Rendering: 188 seconds
Interior Rendering: 453 seconds
Radiosity: 188 seconds
------------
Total Time: 829 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:12:09 AM
Your Score: 141.413427561837
---------------------------------------------------

2nd Test ...Pretty good for a two year old box

Generic Dual Xeon 2.0 w/ HT
1Gb Rambus RAM
nVidia QuadroFX 500

Test Date : 10/6/2004
Test Start Time: 3:17:10 PM

Exterior Rendering: 133 seconds
Interior Rendering: 348 seconds
Radiosity: 163 seconds
------------
Total Time: 644 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:28:28 PM
Your Score: 154.487632508834
---------------------------------------------------

I guess I need to get my hands on a couple of the new Dell Precision 670s ...

[c-hawk]

Sorry, forgot to mention I'm on XP Pro SP1 ... if you're wondering.

[dazza163968596]

Bench Test man my computer is really slow

P4 2.66
1 Gb Ram
76 Gb HD
Ati 9600 radeon with 128mb ram

Results
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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 07/10/2004
Test Start Time: 08:45:06

Exterior Rendering: 231 seconds
Interior Rendering: 595 seconds
Radiosity: 284 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1110 seconds

Test Finish Time: 09:04:01
Your Score: 121.554770318021

[anthony.67953]

Test Date : 10/7/2004
Test Start Time: 8:35:53 AM

Exterior Rendering: 210 seconds
Interior Rendering: 566 seconds
Radiosity: 272 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1048 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:53:50 AM
Your Score: 125.936395759717


Laptop: Alienware Area-51m
Processor:GenuineIntel Family 15 Model 2 3.1 GHz Stepping 7
Video: 1600 x 1200 in 32-Bit Color, MOBILITY RADEON 9000
Memory: 1023 MB
OS: Win XP Pro

[Chris DiSunno]

Test Date : 10/7/2004
Test Start Time: 1:22:10 PM

Exterior Rendering: 169 seconds
Interior Rendering: 411 seconds
Radiosity: 207 seconds
------------
Total Time: 787 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:35:38 PM
Your Score: 144.381625441696

Dell Precision 360
P4 3.2gz
1gb ram
Nvidia Quatro FX1000

[Lashers]

Is the benckmark updated yet for 7.?

Lashers

[plawrence]

I'm very concerned. I've only run this on one system since we got Revit Building 8.0 (I'll be checking the others soon) and due to a LONG pause at around 18% on the first pass, we get the following results. Does anyone else have this extreme slowdown in rendering with 8.0?

Test Date : 7/7/2005
Test Start Time: 10:31:44 AM

Exterior Rendering: 410 seconds
Interior Rendering: 622 seconds
Radiosity: 428 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1460 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:56:38 AM
Your Score: 96.8197879858657
-----------------------------------------------------

P4 3.4Ghz HT
2.0GB of Ram
XP SP2
NVIDIA GeForce 6600

Build: 20050428_2300

[nole]

Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ (@3200+)
Mainboard Abit NF7-S
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT AGP
Hard Disk : SATA 120GB
OS: WinXP Pro SP1
REVIT 8

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 08.07.2005
Test Start Time: 8:26:05

Exterior Rendering: 198 seconds
Interior Rendering: 562 seconds
Radiosity: 294 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1054 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:44:10
Your Score: 125.512367491166

[Wagurto]

How do I test my computer? Is there a file or something?
How do I place the results? I did not see any explanations of how to do these things.
Thanks

[Henry D]

You can download it here:

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689

[Damo]

If this is still going, here you are:

Revit Render Benchmark - v.01
4/30/2004
render-bench6.txt

Computer: Dell Dimension 8300
CPU: Pentium 4 3.20GHz
RAM: 1GB
Video: ATI Radeon 9800XT with 256MB DDR RAM
HD Maxor 120GB SATA (Serial ATA)
OS: Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 2

Revit Building 8.0

Test Date : 12/08/2005
Test Start Time: 23:06:44

Exterior Rendering: 160 seconds
Interior Rendering: 386 seconds
Radiosity: 216 seconds
------------
Total Time: 762 seconds

Test Finish Time: 23:19:58
Your Score: 146.148409893993

[LarryG]

This is the family machine. It's the first one I have tested with 8.1. Much faster than the machines I have tested in my office using 8.0. The office machines all stalled at 18% on the first render. I'll post office render results later and will have comparisons of 7, 8, and 8.1 from the same machine.

Based on these tests, Hyper Threading reduces render time by about 25%
Reran test with Open GL turned on - No Difference

Thanks for putting this together!!!


Test Date : 8/23/2005
Test Start Time: 5:30:23 AM

Exterior Rendering: 160 seconds
Interior Rendering: 406 seconds
Radiosity: 176 seconds
------------
Total Time: 742 seconds

Test Finish Time: 5:43:23 AM
Your Score: 147.56183745583

Revit 8.1
XP Pro, Service Pack 2
ATI Radeon X300 128Mb
Dell Dimension 8400
P4 3.4 GHz
1 GB Ram

[LarryG]

Ok this is my fastest office machine. I ran the benchmark test with 6.1, 7.0, 8.0, and 8.1.
What is the deal with the first render hanging up around 17 - 18%. This happens on other machines in the office and continues to happen with 8.1 on some that I have tested.

Dell Precision WorkStation 470
XP Pro SP2
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz
2 Gb Ram
NVidia Quadro FX 3400
Revit 6.1
Exterior Rendering: 125 seconds
Interior Rendering: 285 seconds
Radiosity: 141 seconds
------------
Total Time: 551 seconds
Your Score: 161.060070671378

Revit 7.0
Exterior Rendering: 140 seconds
Interior Rendering: 325 seconds
Radiosity: 161 seconds
------------
Total Time: 626 seconds
Your Score: 155.759717314488

Revit 8.0
Exterior Rendering: 400 seconds
Interior Rendering: 555 seconds
Radiosity: 416 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1371 seconds
Your Score: 103.109540636042

Revit 8.1
Exterior Rendering: 126 seconds
Interior Rendering: 299 seconds
Radiosity: 157 seconds
------------
Total Time: 582 seconds
Your Score: 158.86925795053

Revit 8.1 With Hyper Threading turned on:
Exterior Rendering: 93 seconds
Interior Rendering: 233 seconds
Radiosity: 118 seconds
------------
Total Time: 444 seconds
Your Score: 168.62

[zanzibarbob7]

' '
' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 9/23/2005
Test Start Time: 11:09:43 AM

Exterior Rendering: 166 seconds
Interior Rendering: 528 seconds
Radiosity: 245 seconds
------------
Total Time: 939 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:25:47 AM
Your Score: 133.639575971731

Xi Computer
AMD Athlon 64 FX 53, 2.40 GHz
2.00 GB RAM
NVidia Quadro FX 2000
Revit 8.1

[muttlieb]

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' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 9/28/2005
Test Start Time: 10:19:54 AM

Exterior Rendering: 146 seconds
Interior Rendering: 353 seconds
Radiosity: 166 seconds
------------
Total Time: 665 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:31:34 AM
Your Score: 153.003533568905

Computer: built by muttlieb
Intel P4 670 3.8GHz 2MB L2 cache
1GB Crucial RAM
PNY Quadro FX 540 (77.56 ForceWare drivers)
XP Pro SP2
Revit 8.1

[funkman]

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' '
' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 30/09/2005
Test Start Time: 11:33:47 AM

Exterior Rendering: 89 seconds
Interior Rendering: 285 seconds
Radiosity: 139 seconds
------------
Total Time: 513 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:42:50 AM
Your Score: 163.745583038869


________
CPU - AMD A64 4600+ dualcore (edited)
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
Support Raid 0,Raid 1 and Raid0+1 and RAID 5
4G (4x 1G) DDR400 PC3200 Kingmax RAM
3 x 200Gb 8m Buffer SATA Seagate HDD run in RAID 5 Mode - 1.44FDD
Leadtek Quadro FX1300 Card with DVI
Windows XP 64x

[blads]

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' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 30/09/2005
Test Start Time: 11:25:58 AM

Exterior Rendering: 169 seconds
Interior Rendering: 404 seconds
Radiosity: 198 seconds
------------
Total Time: 771 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:39:32 AM
Your Score: 145.512367491166

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Computer: by KingBlads, assembled by Business Technology Systems
Intel Pentium 4-3.4GHz 800 FSB 2MB Prescott Hyper-Thread 650
2GB PC400 DDR Ram
Xenon Systems Quadro nVIDIA FX 540 128Mb PCI-E video card (driver version = 7.1.8.4)
XP Pro SP2
Revit 8.1

[dazza163968596]

Just cic the bench test on my new system
dual 3.4 GHz xeon processors with Hyper threading Enabled
800 mHz FSB
4 Gb 400mHz DDR ram
Nvidia Quadro 4 980 XGL graphics card with 256 Mb DDR ram

The results Where as follows
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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 30/09/2005
Test Start Time: 12:40:45

Exterior Rendering: 86 seconds
Interior Rendering: 209 seconds
Radiosity: 106 seconds
------------
Total Time: 401 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:47:45
Your Score: 171.660777385159

[wesleyw]

Test Date : 11/10/2005
Test Start Time: 9:38:36 AM

Exterior Rendering: 110 seconds
Interior Rendering: 346 seconds
Radiosity: 172 seconds
------------
Total Time: 628 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:49:34 AM
Your Score: 155.618374558304

Machine Specs
ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (BIOS: 1013 Final),
Athlon64 X2(939) 3800+
Zalman passive chipset cooler & Artic Cooling Freezer 64 CPU cooler.
4x1024 Corsair XMS Platinum TwinX in dual channel @ 2-3-3-6,
GeForce 6800GT, 256MB DD3 SDRAM (PCI-E),
Raid 0 (system) - 2 x WD 36GB, SATA, 8MB, 10KRPM
Raid 5 (storage) - 3 x WD 250GB, SATA2, 8MB, 7.2KRPM
Thermaltake 450w PSU.
Windows Xp 64bit

[Batman]

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' '
' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 13/10/2005
Test Start Time: 00:14:33

Exterior Rendering: 99 seconds
Interior Rendering: 307 seconds
Radiosity: 152 seconds
------------
Total Time: 558 seconds

Test Finish Time: 00:24:21
Your Score: 160.565371024735

The machine:

Dual AMD Opteron 248
Tyan K8W MB
2 Gb Ram
WD 160Gb SATA RAID
Nvidia 6800GT 256Mb
Win XP Pro
8.1 Revit
and ......

a Panasonic 1.44" Floppy Disk Drive (never used)

[GuyR]

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' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 4/11/2005
Test Start Time: 7:32:55 p.m.

Exterior Rendering: 96 seconds
Interior Rendering: 305 seconds
Radiosity: 146 seconds
------------
Total Time: 547 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:42:12 p.m.
Your Score: 161.342756183746

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dualcore
ASUS A8-N-SLI motherboard
2GB Mushkin high performance DDR400 RAM
2x 36GB 10000RPM WD Raptor HD-Not in RAID config
Leadtek nvidia 6800GT 256MB PCI-E softmoded to Quadro 4000,
winXP 32bit

[rookwood]

Test Date : 12/11/2005
Test Start Time: 7:49:52 PM

Exterior Rendering: 148 seconds
Interior Rendering: 292 seconds
Radiosity: 172 seconds
------------
Total Time: 612 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:00:42 PM
Your Score: 156.749116607774

BOXX GoBoxx 2300 mobile workstation
17" WUXGA 1920 x 1200 Active Matrix Display
Pentium® 4 Model 670 with EM64T and HT Technology (3.8GHz)
Intel 915P chipset
3GB DDRII 533 (4 DIMMS)
Dual Channel DDR2−533 (4 SO−DIMMS)
NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400 256MB
RAID 0 − 200GB 7200rpm (2 x 100GB IDE)
8X Double−Layer DVD±R/RW Burner (with NERO and WinDVD 5 software)
8X Double−Layer DVD±R/RW Burner (with NERO and WinDVD 5 software)
Windows XP Professional with SP2
Adobe Video Collection Pro − Supports HDV (AE Pro,Premiere Pro,Photoshop CS)

[iru69]

STOCK CONFIGURATION

Test Date : 1/18/2006
Test Start Time: 11:08:12 PM

Exterior Rendering: 93 seconds
Interior Rendering: 304 seconds
Radiosity: 131 seconds
------------
Total Time: 528 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:17:33 PM
Your Score: 162.685512367491

CPU: AMD Opteron 175 (2.2GHz dualcore)
CPU cooler: Thermalright XP-120 heatsink w/ Nexus 120mm Real Quiet fan
MB: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (nvidia nforce4-SLI chipset - no fan)
RAM: 2GB (2x1GB) Crucial Ballistic DDR400 (dual channel)
Video: Asus Extreme N6600 Silencer (nvidia 6600 256MB PCI-E - no fan)
HD: 80GB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda IV (not very fast, but very quiet)
PSU: Nexus 4090 Real Silent (400W)
OS & Revit: Windows XP & Revit 8.1
(I like quiet computers!)


OVERCLOCKED CONFIGURATION (stable)

Test Date : 1/20/2006
Test Start Time: 8:59:37 PM

Exterior Rendering: 88 seconds
Interior Rendering: 278 seconds
Radiosity: 117 seconds
------------
Total Time: 483 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:08:07 PM
Your Score: 165.865724381625

Same setup as above, except: The stock setup uses a CPU multiplier of 11x and a bus frequency of 200MHz (11x200MHz = 2.2GHz). I reduced the bus multiplier from 5x down to 4x and upped the bus frequency from 200 to 220 resulting in 2.4GHz (11x220MHz = 2.4GHz). Temps are ~40c at idle and stabilize at ~53c on the benchmark.

[narlee]

Where does one find the .txt file you guys are running?

[zanzibarbob7]

Narlee,


BeeGee has it posted on page 10 of this thread. Have fun.

[affdesco]

Dell Performs Well with 670 series Workstation. Dual Core Dual Xeon 2.8 ghz w/ 2mb Ram really packs a punch. more to follow, including new results and comparisons.

''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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' Revit Render Benchmark - v.01 '
' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 4/11/2006
Test Start Time: 9:24:19 PM

Exterior Rendering: 57 seconds
Interior Rendering: 138 seconds
Radiosity: 75 seconds
------------
Total Time: 270 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:29:39 PM
Your Score: 180.918727915194

System Profile
Dell 670 Workstation - March 2006
2x Xeon - Dual Core 2.8 ghz 2x2mb L2 Cache
2mb Ram (2x1gb) ECC 4200 DDR2
Video Card - Nvidia NVS280
SCSI x 15k hard drive

Well, I am suprised.... being as I purchased a Quadro FX3400 to install... you know... to make it fast and compete.
I ran the test on the Dell system out of the box. System cost as is $6-7k.
Add for the new video card - Quadro FX3450 and we'll see if the video card or the dual core is king.

Dual Core must have something to do with it.
I will still replace NVS280 card with a new Quadro FX3400 / FX3450 and test again.
What do you think? Will it make a difference? 280 sec's. /

[mlgatzke]

Dell 670 Workstation - March 2006
2x Xeon - Dual Core 2.8 ghz 2x2mb L2 Cache/
Well, nice to see that someone FINALLY broke my record benchmark. Using dual dual-cores in a 670 I can understand why. Congratulations. Nice score. It will be interesting to see if the "better" video card raises your score even higher.

[affdesco]

I am returning a quadro fx3400 video card as non functional. I am researching now as to fx3400, fx3450 of geforce 7900gtx or 7900gt replacement. I read in forums where quadro series was moving to the 7900 series architecture. Anyone to comment? Rastering / Radiosity is heavy planned usage.

[Wes Macaulay]

Greg -- those are all overkill. Think FX540! But for guaranteed results, we're recommending the ATI FireGL cards. You won't notice any improvement if you use anything more than the V3100. Revit just doesn't rely on the video card's chipsets that much.

[Kroke]

Dell Dimension 9150
Pentium (D) 2.8Ghz
1 Gig Ram
80G SATA
Nvidia Geforce 7900GT/256MB
Revit 8.1
XP Home, SP2

I was surfing the net and had a second revit session going while I did this and forgot to turn off all my taskbar stuff. I'll post next week if I remember with my new dual 7900GT SLI Alienware setup to see how it compared to this machine.

Test Date : 4/14/2006
Test Start Time: 9:29:57 AM

Exterior Rendering: 158 seconds
Interior Rendering: 371 seconds
Radiosity: 170 seconds
------------
Total Time: 699 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:42:23 AM
Your Score: 150.600706713781

[affdesco]

ebay surfing for recommended revit graphic cards ATI - v3100, v5100, v7100, Quadro - fx540, fx1400, fx3400, fx3450, fx4400, fx4500. Pricing runs the gamut, had to return a card (fx3400), missed a few deals on fx540 and v3100 for under $50. Happily spent $445 on winning bid for fx4400 pci-e. way beyond revit needs but.... great for all purposes. will be installed next week. We love Revit! Having fun now!

[affdesco]

Will be installing Quadro FX4400. Still interested in benchmarking through the gamut of cards. Anyone want to send an extra card for the testing. Seeking ATI firegl 3100 and up, Quadro 540 and up. Will Benchmark Revit on 2x dual core processor workstation - Dell 670 and return card. Just for the numbers.

[Wes Macaulay]

Greg, the card you've bought might not work as well with Revit as the V3100, and you've certainly spent more than you need to.

The video card has no effect on rendering speeds.

Cheers

[iru69]

Will be installing Quadro FX4400. Still interested in benchmarking through the gamut of cards. Anyone want to send an extra card for the testing. Seeking ATI firegl 3100 and up, Quadro 540 and up. Will Benchmark Revit on 2x dual core processor workstation - Dell 670 and return card. Just for the numbers.
Benchmarking what? If you want to know benchmarks of graphics cards, there are a lot of gaming sites that do it for you. The Revit Render Benchmarks test the CPUs (not the graphics card) when rendering which is why your rendering benchmark was so high - you have a quad processor system. For every day modeling work in Revit, your computer is going to be relatively slow - 2.8GHz just isn't very fast for single threaded apps like Revit. A faster graphics card isn't going to make it faster in a practical way.

[affdesco]

added RAM - 2gb to now equal 4gb ECC. Benchmarks remain same as before. That was expected for the benchmark model. Larger files sizes may be affected. I am interested in running similars benchmarks on larger files which are more typical of the renderings I am currently running.

Recent renderings using our in-house projects take much longer than the benchmark model but they are still tolerable. The other cptr with 3.0 p4 2 gb ram usually crashes during large renderings.

I am still learning to tweak the project file .rvt for optimum settings and performance in my tasks.

[affdesco]

Thanks for your thoughts. I was interested in many of the cards including gl v3100. Went fx4400 for a chance and for some monitor configurations I will use. Pricing of the card was fair for similar fire gl. I do get interested in the beyond ideas and must feel the burn before I learn it's hot. Card is working fine. Installing plugins and such now. So as it stands we added the fx4400 and boosted ram for likely zero gain in the Revit rendering arena.

[affdesco]

had fun with the benchmark. studied the code. I always learn something from code. So we made a similar run with our larger files replacing the *.rvt. Some of our files used to crash the system, now they run well. I noted radiosity times were extensive in comparison to the standard renderings. I am interested in understanding some of what effects the radiosity process.

The dell cptr has a locked front end bus but it is not impenetrable. I realize the machine core cpu's run hot. I would like to overclock the twin dual cores. More to follow.

[muttlieb]

Test Date : 4/23/2006
Test Start Time: 7:17:11 PM

Exterior Rendering: 90 seconds
Interior Rendering: 242 seconds
Radiosity: 121 seconds
------------
Total Time: 453 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:25:22 PM
Your Score: 167.985865724382

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual-core 4800+ 2.4 GHz
CPU cooler: Thermalright XP-120 heatsink w/ Nexus 120mm Real Quiet fan
MB: ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
RAM: 2GB (2x1GB) Crucial DDR 400
Video: Asus Extreme N6600 Silencer
HD: 300GB Seagate 7200.9 SATA
PSU: Nexus 4090 Real Silent (400W)
OS & Revit: Windows XP Pro & Revit 9.0

[iru69]

Test Date : 4/15/2006
Test Start Time: 1:41:20 AM

Exterior Rendering: 107 seconds
Interior Rendering: 283 seconds
Radiosity: 133 seconds
------------
Total Time: 523 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:50:21 AM
Your Score: 163.038869257951


Acer TravelMate 8200
Core Duo T2500 (2.0GHz)
2 GB RAM DDR2 533 SDRAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics (256MB DDR)
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) TFT LCD
Win XP & R9

[angelo]

Test Date : 5/31/2006
Test Start Time: 12:55:32 AM

Exterior Rendering: 103 seconds
Interior Rendering: 290 seconds
Radiosity: 133 seconds
------------
Total Time: 526 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:05:12 AM
Your Score: 162.826855123675

Revit 9
Win XP Pro

Apple MacBook Pro (Laptop)
2.16 dual core
1 GB RAM
ATI X1600 (256 MB)

Nice to see a laptop putting in a decent time, and an apple at that...I may just turn my older dual xenon into a rendering slave!

[Alex Page]

Test Date : 5/31/2006
Test Start Time: 3:37:45 PM

Exterior Rendering: 170 seconds
Interior Rendering: 394 seconds
Radiosity: 187 seconds
------------
Total Time: 751 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:51:12 PM
Your Score: 146.925795053004

Using Revit 9
3.4 Ghz P4
Asus P5gd2-vm Motherboard (bus clock 200 mhz)
2 gB RAM
Radeon X300 128Mb Video Card

[Tobie]

Revit 8 vs Revit 9

revit 9
alienware area 51 7700 laptop
pentium 4 3.4ghz
2 gig ram
256meg nvidia geforce go video card
Test Date : 31/05/2006
Test Start Time: 4:35:59 PM

Exterior Rendering: 174 seconds
Interior Rendering: 414 seconds
Radiosity: 195 seconds
------------
Total Time: 783 seconds

Test Finish Time: 4:50:00 PM
Your Score: 144.664310954064


revit 8.1
alienware area 51 7700 laptop
pentium 4 3.4ghz
2 gig ram
256meg nvidia geforce go video card

Test Date : 8/08/2005
Test Start Time: 12:47:37 PM

Exterior Rendering: 173 seconds
Interior Rendering: 415 seconds
Radiosity: 206 seconds
------------
Total Time: 794 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:01:23 PM
Your Score:
143.886925795053

[patricks]

Benchmark results with my new custom rig:

Test Date : 6/24/2006
Test Start Time: 1:29:55 AM

Exterior Rendering: 132 seconds
Interior Rendering: 290 seconds
Radiosity: 145 seconds
------------
Total Time: 567 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:39:34 AM
Your Score: 159.929328621908

grrr just barely missed the 160 mark. :p

System specs:
Pentium D 940 dual core 3.2 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2x 2MB L2 cache
Intel D945GNT motherboard
2x 1GB Crucial DDR2-667 SDRAM, ECC unbuffered
Western Digital Raptor 150 GB, 10K rpm SATA hard drive
PNY nVIDIA Quadro FX540 graphics card

Tomorrow I'm going to try the bench mark on my office PC, so I can see how much faster my new one is. :)

[patricks]

Okay this is absolutely rediculous. I just ran the bench on my office PC and it took nearly 45 minutes to complete. :shock:

Test Date : 6/24/2006
Test Start Time: 12:45:52 PM

Exterior Rendering: 593 seconds
Interior Rendering: 1030 seconds
Radiosity: 789 seconds
------------
Total Time: 2412 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:26:25 PM
Your Score: 29.5406360424028 :o :o

Now when I first started the benchmark, it opened the first exterior render view, and it sat there for at least 5 minutes saying "Drawing: Render Bench.rvt - Render Scene 1" with the progress bar at 17%. This was before the actual rendering process even started. I thought it was stuck and it wasn't going to work at all on this machine, but it finally continued. It also seemed to get "stuck" for several minutes after opening the 3rd view, but before the actual radiosity process began.

I don't understand this. I mean I know this computer is slower than mine at home, but not by THIS much. It is:

Dell Precision 360 workstation
Intel Pentium 4 2.26 GHz
2x 1GB and 2x 512MB DDR-400 SDRAM (3 GB total)
nVIDIA Quadro FX3000 graphics card

Perhaps I should defrag the hard drive and maybe run a registry cleaner. The computer is almost 3 years old and was used before I started working here, and it's got plenty of junk on it. Or perhaps I should just reformat the whole thing.

[patricks]

Decided to try running the benchmark various times at home with various Graphics options.

OpenGL off, overlay planes on - 567 seconds, 159.93 score <-- from my post above
OpenGL on, overlay planes off - 569 seconds, 159.79 score
OpenGL on, overlay planes on - 568 seconds, 159.8 score
OpenGL off, overlay planes off - 566 seconds - 160 score woohoo I broke 160 :D

Not enough really to make a difference, but really I just wanted to break 160 was all. So in conclusion, use whatever combo works best on your machine, because it's not going to affect rendering performance much at all.

[affdesco]

pretty much no change. quadro fx4400 does nicely though with 2-21" and 1-32" monitor. ram, video did not change much at all. Will wait for 64 bit and still seek a way to overclock dell machine.

[patricks]

pretty much no change. quadro fx4400 does nicely though with 2-21" and 1-32" monitor. ram, video did not change much at all. Will wait for 64 bit and still seek a way to overclock dell machine.

jeez man, wish I had the money for that kind of equipment.

[nicholas_baum]

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Test Date : 6/27/2006
Test Start Time: 1:37:03 PM

Exterior Rendering: 105 seconds
Interior Rendering: 276 seconds
Radiosity: 146 seconds
------------
Total Time: 527 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:46:07 PM
Your Score: 162.756183745583


Revit 9.0, Windows XP Pro
XI Mtower 64 SLI workstation
-----------------------------------------
AMD 64 x2 4400+ dual core (DC3700)
2x1024JB cache hypetransport
2Gig DDR 400 Mhz ECC RAM
ATI FireGL 5100
160 GB 7200RPM SATAII 300 mb/s Harddrive

Nick Baum
Chaleff & Rogers, Architects A.I.A.
1514 Montauk Hwy - PO Box 990
Water Mill, NY 11976
(631) 726-4477 -ph
(631) 726-4478 -fax
www.chaleffandrogers.com

[affdesco]

If you dream it, see it, plan it, you'll do it. But it's not easy,,, else everyone would do it or have one. Stick to it though, I am really enjoying this Revit package on this computer. Puts my older 3.0 2mb ram system to shame. I watched and waited for weeks to find the right cptr from dell, actually had to send one server back, my fault... but I learned and fought hard to get knowledge about what I was doing. In the end we're all right but I am sure glad I stuck with the upscale fx4400 graphics card. with 2 to 4 monitors or 2+1 at 32" it is great.. with SLI technology I'll add the 2nd video card to double the rendering speed. Leaves only one question.... what will we get with 64 bit.... except the typical problems of a new OS.

[affdesco]

I will be adding a 2nd video card via SLI technology for achieving up to double performance increase in rendering speeds. I am amazed at how fast I can render a scene now. 150 dpi on major graphics rooms, lots of families and lines,.. I'll run render frequently now for testing the material settings and details... and it doesn't take forever or a cup of coffee to get through a screen.

No performance increases were noted for standard revit use. We can hope for 64 bit OS to help or for the wishlist to raise the "multiple (2-4-8) processor utilization."

[iru69]

Test Date : 8/17/2006
Test Start Time: 10:00:40 AM

Exterior Rendering: 69 seconds
Interior Rendering: 173 seconds
Radiosity: 87 seconds
------------
Total Time: 329 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:06:17 AM
Your Score: 176.749116607774


Dell Precision 390
Intel Core2 Duo X6800 (2.93GHz)
2 GB RAM (DDR2 533MHz NECC)
ATI FireGL V3400 (128MB)
80GB HD (7200RPM)
Win XP & R9.0

The score isn't mind-blowing (I really thought it would be higher), but not too bad for $2033 USD...

[StephenVB]

I'm getting in on this a little late. I didn't see many benchmark results for Revit running on Macs so I thought I'd add my test results. These results are for Revit running on Windows XP Pro via BootCamp:

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' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 8/24/2006
Test Start Time: 4:11:01 PM

Exterior Rendering: 105 seconds
Interior Rendering: 281 seconds
Radiosity: 134 seconds
------------
Total Time: 520 seconds

Test Finish Time: 4:20:25 PM
Your Score: 163.250883392226

Hardware: 20" iMac Intel Core Duo, 2GHz, 1GB Memory, ATI Radeon X1600 with 128 MB VRAM.

[jwolfe]

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 27/08/2006
Test Start Time: 1:16:12 PM

Exterior Rendering: 72 seconds
Interior Rendering: 190 seconds
Radiosity: 97 seconds
------------
Total Time: 359 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:22:28 PM
Your Score: 174.628975265018

Well, not the best, not the worst - but this will keep me happy for now...

Home Built System
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor - E6700 2.66 GHz 4MB Cache
ASUS P5B 1066 FSB Mother
nVidia GeForce (EVGA) 256MB 7900GT KO
2GB Ultra Low latency Mushkin RAM

[jwolfe]

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
' '
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Test Date : 27/08/2006
Test Start Time: 1:41:16 PM

Exterior Rendering: 70 seconds
Interior Rendering: 190 seconds
Radiosity: 97 seconds
------------
Total Time: 357 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:47:29 PM
Your Score: 174.770318021201

Same system as in last post, but with OpenGL function set to "on" (Previously set on "Auto")

-Jared

[dbaldacchino]

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 8/28/2006
Test Start Time: 12:19:06 AM

Exterior Rendering: 98 seconds
Interior Rendering: 266 seconds
Radiosity: 144 seconds
------------
Total Time: 508 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:27:54 AM
Your Score: 164.098939929329


Dell Latitude D820 (Centrino Core Duo - T2600 @ 2.16GHz) dual L2 cache
667 MHz FSB
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120M (512MB)
2GB Ram
55GB HDD

[brett.habel]

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 9/8/2006
Test Start Time: 11:35:58 AM

Exterior Rendering: 69 seconds
Interior Rendering: 191 seconds
Radiosity: 97 seconds
------------
Total Time: 357 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:42:29 AM
Your Score: 174.770318021201

--

Dell Precision 390
Intel Core2 Duo E6700 (2.66GHz 4MB L2 cache)
4GB RAM (DDR2 533MHz)
nVidia QuadroFX 550 (128mb)
2 x 80GB HD (7200RPM RAID 0)
Win XP Pro & Revit Structure 3

[Les Therrien]

I do understand that this thread is a "rendering" benchmark, however is it safe to say that these benchmarks are a good indicator of overall performance!?
Also, the lower the "total time", the faster Revit will perform in general?

[Batman]

Yes, but you should only limit that to rendering since Revit can only utilise a single processor for all its other general functions. I think this even extends to the dual core processors. I believe it only utilises a single core out of the two for all functions except rendering.

A dual processor can help if you need to run other applications at the same time as Revit.

[janunson]

Revit 9.1
(using the revit 6 script) (http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689)
Pentium D 2.80 GHz
ECS 945P-A 800 mhz system bus
2Gig SDRAM
ATI FireGL V3100
Maxtor 6V120MO SATA - 120GB
Windows XP Pro - SP2



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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
' render-bench6.txt '
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Test Date : 10/9/2006
Test Start Time: 9:46:00 AM

Exterior Rendering: 204 seconds
Interior Rendering: 378 seconds
Radiosity: 251 seconds
------------
Total Time: 833 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:01:18 AM
Your Score: 141.13074204947

[Les Therrien]

Yes, but you should only limit that to rendering since Revit can only utilise a single processor for all its other general functions. I think this even extends to the dual core processors. I believe it only utilises a single core out of the two for all functions except rendering.

A dual processor can help if you need to run other applications at the same time as Revit.

Thanks.
I currently have dual xeons and am aware that Revit only takes advantage of the one processor. Basically systems using core-duo processors seem like a really good bet.

[clay_hickling]

HPxw4400(Workstation) Intel Core 2 Duo X6700, 3.25G RAM, FX560 V/card

Test Date : 2/10/2006
Test Start Time: 7:57:27 AM

Exterior Rendering: 345 seconds
Interior Rendering: 476 seconds
Radiosity: 380 seconds
------------
Total Time: 1201 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:17:54 AM
Your Score: 115.123674911661

Why is this so slow in comparison to others I have seen posted?
And more importantly why is it slower then the following?

HP intel Pentium4 2.8GHz, Single Core, 1Gb Ram, GeForce 285 Video Card
Test Date : 11/09/2006
Test Start Time: 4:20:08 PM

Exterior Rendering: 208 seconds
Interior Rendering: 515 seconds
Radiosity: 246 seconds
------------
Total Time: 969 seconds

Test Finish Time: 4:37:07 PM
Your Score: 131.519434628975
***************************************

[sbrown]

I have not found an increase in performance with duocore machine, I've actually found the opposite. Try isoloating revit to one processor using something like SMP seesaw. And see if that helps.

[iru69]

Why is this so slow in comparison to others I have seen posted?
There's something most definitely wrong with that score. Have you tried running it again after a clean reboot? Are you noticing any other general slowdowns?

If the score is consistently that low, there's something wrong with your hardware or software (with all due respect to Scott's own experience, rendering times should absolutely be faster with multiple cores).

The one thing that jumps out at me right away is your RAM configuration... 3.25GB is a weird amount of RAM to have installed. Are you sure about that number? Did you get the machine with 256MB installed in one slot and install three 1GB modules in the other slots? That could be the problem right there - optimally, modules should be installed in pairs of identical make, size and speed. Do you have them configured for dual channel mode? If it sounds like the RAM might be a problem, you're going to have to open up the case and test out a different configuration - try using just two of the 1GB modules in a dual channel configuration.

[clay_hickling]

The PC has 2 sticks of 2G RAM. We have enabled the 3G switch (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=8018966&linkID=3770375) so Windows can address more then 2G Ram. In this config Windows will only read 3.25G. Have to wait till Vista to address more.

Either way we still get poor test results (around 1200-1400secs)on Pentium Ds with 1 or 2G Ram,

[iru69]

The PC has 2 sticks of 2G RAM. We have enabled the 3G switch (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=8018966&linkID=3770375) so Windows can address more then 2G Ram. In this config Windows will only read 3.25G. Have to wait till Vista to address more.

Either way we still get poor test results (around 1200-1400secs)on Pentium Ds with 1 or 2G Ram,
So you actually have 4GB of RAM with the 3GB switch turned on? It's possible the 3GB switch is causing problems - there's a reason it's not on by default. Have you been turning that switch on with all your dual core PCs? Have you also been messing around with your VM settings? I guess my only suggestion would be to return everything to the system defaults and try running the benchmarks again. Good luck!

[janunson]

Little test - same new Dell Precision.
First run - with the quadro NVS 285 card it came with, the seond with a fancy GeForce 7950.

The card does feel like it improves performance in regular operations (wish there was a standard benchmark for them!) and greatly improves performance w/ other apps, and other benchmarks... but it actually lost me a point on the Revit render benchmark!

I knew people were saying the high-end graphics cards wouldn't help, but this is more a gaming card than a high-end 3D CAD card (although they're becoming samelike it seems).



New Dells - quadra card
10/11/2006
3:18:52 PM

83 seconds
190 seconds
99 seconds
372 seconds
3:25:39 PM
173.7102473
Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core2 Duo X6800@2.93 GHz
Dell Inc. OGH911 82801 GB/GR Southbridge
2 Gb DDR2-666 (333 Mhz)
nVidia Quadro NVS 285 w/ 256MB RAM
WD Caviar SATA 3
Windows XP Pro - SP2



New Dells - fancy GeForce
10/17/2006
1:10:21 PM

83 seconds
197 seconds
115 seconds
395 seconds
1:17:31 PM
172.0848057
Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core2 Duo X6800@2.93 GHz
Dell Inc. OGH911 82801 GB/GR Southbridge
2 Gb DDR2-666 (333 Mhz)
nVidia GeForce 7950 GT w/ 512 MB RAM
WD Caviar SATA 3
Windows XP Pro - SP2

[truevis]

I do understand that this thread is a "rendering" benchmark, however is it safe to say that these benchmarks are a good indicator of overall performance!?
Also, the lower the "total time", the faster Revit will perform in general?
We'd need to have a benchmark similar to the SolidWorks benchmark (http://www.spec.org/gpc/apc.static/sw2005.html) that's out there which does some typical things that a user would do during his day. That might be more indicative of overall performance. (Anyone want to record one?)

I tried SolidWorks benchmark (http://www.spec.org/gpc/apc.static/sw2005.html) once upon a time with built-in video, then an ATI 9200 card -- wow, what a difference when the benchmark spun around the model!

The render benchmark is what its name indicates.

[affdesco]

Greg -- those are all overkill. Think FX540! But for guaranteed results, we're recommending the ATI FireGL cards. You won't notice any improvement if you use anything more than the V3100. Revit just doesn't rely on the video card's chipsets that much.
Upon retrospect (after I purchased and installed a high end card) ... I respect the many other quality comments of our users and teachers... I did learn the lesson that graphic card "overkill" has very little return on the revit program itself.

[affdesco]

In reviewing many of the referrals and recommendations I am reading that "revit" does not need the high end graphics cards..

But for full consideration in choosing a card solution shouldn't we also be considering the actual user's working interface with Revit when considering the choice in the card(s)? We may run 2 or more monitors of significant size. If that is what is important to the user... ie.. expanded revit screen with multiple 2d and 3d views open ... then it does add value to include a "high" end graphic card(s)(SLI).

[iru69]

If that is what is important to the user... ie.. expanded revit screen with multiple 2d and 3d views open ... then it does add value to include a "high" end graphic card(s)(SLI).
No, no, no. Something like SLI is (currently) just about completely useless for Revit. Even with two screens and multiple views open.

Some of those 30"+ monitors may require "high-end" graphics cards to drive them (e.g. DVI-D dual link), but that's because of the huge number of pixels that need to be displayed - it doesn't have anything to do with Revit.

Greg, just a friendly suggestion, but if you want to write a diary about your graphics cards (with Revit), maybe you should start a separate thread?

[Phil Read]

Hardware Overview:
Machine Name: MacBook Pro 17"
Machine Model: MacBookPro1,2
Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 2 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz

ATI Radeon X1600:
Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1600
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
VRAM (Total): 256 MB

Memory (Each Bank):
Size: 1 GB
Type: DDR2 SDRAM
Speed: 667 MHz

Results - Parallels (w/ 1GB ram):
Exterior Rendering: 174 seconds
Interior Rendering: 496 seconds
Radiosity: 221 seconds
------------
Total Time: 891 seconds
Your Score: 137.031802120141

Results - Bootcamp (w/ 2GB ram):
Exterior Rendering: 103 seconds
Interior Rendering: 287 seconds
Radiosity: 145 seconds
------------
Total Time: 535 seconds
Your Score: 162.190812720848

Not the fastest...but faster than Guy! :)

-Phil

[Scott D Davis]

This is one of our new Graphics workstations for our guys that do renderings and animations. This machine was just able to open and process a 4 Gig Photoshop file. No other machine in our office would open it successfully.

Hardware:

HP xw8400
64 Bit
Dual Xeon Dual Core (4 processors)
8 Gigs RAM

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' Use at your own risk '
' 4/30/2004 '
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Test Date : 1/17/2007
Test Start Time: 9:39:37 AM

Exterior Rendering: 59 seconds
Interior Rendering: 123 seconds
Radiosity: 97 seconds
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Total Time: 279 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:44:26 AM
Your Score: 180.282685512367

[truevis]

Does it run with Revit 9.1? (I only got it going on 9.0.)

Edit: Never mind -- does work, had some render paths set wrong.

[truevis]

System:

Acer ASE380-ED522M Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2GB DDR2 400GB NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Windows XP Media Center

Price:

$777.21

Results:

Test Date : 1/22/2007
Test Start Time: 7:57:20 PM

Exterior Rendering: 87 seconds
Interior Rendering: 233 seconds
Radiosity: 117 seconds
------------
Total Time: 437 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:04:48 PM
Your Score: 169.116607773852

[patricks]

woohoo! I think we might have a new record around here with my new machine at work :D

Test Date : 1/24/2007
Test Start Time: 3:27:53 PM

Exterior Rendering: 39 seconds
Interior Rendering: 103 seconds
Radiosity: 61 seconds
------------
Total Time: 203 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:31:23 PM
Your Score: 185.65371024735

System specs:
Dell Precision 490 workstation
2x dual-core Xeon processors @ 2.66 GHz (4 processor cores)
4 GB DDR2 ram (3 GB addressed)
80GB 10K rpm hard drive
nVIDIA Quadro FX550 128MB graphics

[truevis]

woohoo! I think we might have a new record around here with my new machine at work :D...
Total Time: 203 secondsWell done! What's its price, please?

[GuyR]

Divide the render time in half (2 cores/4cores) of the Xeon's and comparing to the 5200 Athlon seems to show the Xeons aren't that much quicker than the Athlons. So for general Revit work are the Xeons worth it? And the 64X2's will be much cheaper.

Guy

[patricks]

Well done! What's its price, please?

Price was north of $4,000.

[Wagurto]

Any chance of updating the result of the benchmarks summary?
It will be interesting to see how this new machines compare to each other.
Thanks

[iru69]

Divide the render time in half (2 cores/4cores) of the Xeon's and comparing to the 5200 Athlon seems to show the Xeons aren't that much quicker than the Athlons. So for general Revit work are the Xeons worth it? And the 64X2's will be much cheaper.
Interesting! (especially since I'm home sick today, so I've got nothing better to think about). I'd suggest breaking that down into a couple of parts.

We all know that Revit doesn't take advantage of multiple cores except for rendering. So if we isolate the task of rendering, 4 cores is going to have quite an advantage over 2 cores, even if each individual core of the 4 cores is slower than than the individual core of the 2 cores. However, the performance increases of adding cores is not linear. There's diminishing returns. 4 cores is not going to be twice as fast as 2 cores, and you'll likely see even less performance returns with 8 cores. Looking a few posts back, we can compare a Core 2 Duo @ 2.66GHz to Patrick's system and see that Patrick's system (Xeons @ 2.66GHz) is roughly 75% faster at rendering (not taking into account differences in RAM, MB, etc).

For general Revit work, we can only compare various CPU benchmarks of the Core 2 (Xeon 51xx) versus the Athlon X2/FX. There's a pretty neat CPU benchmarking comparison at Tom's Hardware:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

They don't have Xeon chips listed, but current Xeons (51xx) are almost identical to Core 2. The main differences are Core 2 doesn't support multiple CPU configurations, less cache on some of the models, and slower bus rates on some models. Patricks Xeon 5150 is very similar to the Core 2 E6700 - same clock speed and cache. They don't have the X2 5200 listed, but the FX-60 is almost identical to the X2 5200 - same clock speed and cache (but it uses the old DDR RAM). So, you can get a pretty good comparison of Patricks Xeon 5150 versus Truevis' X2 5200 by comparing the Core 2 E6700 versus the FX-60. The Core 2 E6700 pretty much beats the FX-60 on every benchmark. In fact, the Core 2 E6400 beats or equals the FX-60 in almost every benchmark.

As a side note, what might be really interesting is for Truevis and Patricks (and anyone else) to enable the Revit option to only render using one core and see what the results are. That might give a better indication of the performance of a single core.

On price alone (US dollars), as of this writing an E6400 retails for ~$220, an E6600 is ~$315, an E6700 ~$500, while an X2 5200 is ~US$290. When the Core 2 first came out, there was no contest on price - however AMD has been forced to cut prices to compete, which has had the intended effect - the cost/performance ratio isn't as glaring as it was five months ago. But unless you're a die-hard AMD fanboy, it's still difficult to argue going with the X2 over the Core 2 (we haven't even touched on how the Core 2 is more efficient and uses less wattage). I would still likely recommend an E6400 over the X2 5200. Xeons are more difficult to argue for - they're not significantly faster than comparably clocked Core 2, so their only real benefit is multiple CPU configurations. Unless you do a significant amount of rendering, it's hard to justify their cost (~$700 for each CPU plus a very expensive MB).

So for typical Revit tasks, where only one core comes into play, the Core 2 beats the Athlon X2 hands down on price/performance. The Xeons don't fair nearly as well based on the price.

Value is obviously less quantifiable than benchmarks or dollars. Is Patricks system worth $4,000 when you could build a system that is similar in speed (for anything other than rendering) for half, or even a quarter of that cost? Patricks office obviously thinks so. For some firms, throwing an extra couple thousand dollars at a workstation just isn't a big deal. However, if Patricks has to hold onto that machine for four years in order to justify the cost, I think the more noticeable productivity losses in years three and four will be greater than the less noticeable productivity gains in years one and two.

Finally, just a little anecdotal experience, I've got the Core 2 X6800 at work and an X2 4400+ at home (that I put together a year ago), and while the X6800 is 60% faster on the rendering benchmark, it doesn't feel 60% faster at anything else. While I would definitely go with a Core 2 system now, the 4400+ still feels pretty fast, and I only occasionally notice the difference in typical Revit tasks (aside from rendering). But that may quickly become more pronounced with future versions of Revit as the 4400+ has a harder time keeping up with the additional overhead of new features.

[Scott D Davis]

woohoo! I think we might have a new record around here with my new machine at work :D
Dang my 180 didn't hold up long! I'm going to run it again, but shut down every running task I can before, and see if it makes a difference. Our machine has 8 gigs of ram, but I don't know if IT did the 3 gig switch or not. How can I check?

[iru69]

Dang my 180 didn't hold up long! I'm going to run it again, but shut down every running task I can before, and see if it makes a difference.
Scott, I'm not seeing what kind of Xeons that system has that you benchmarked?

[GuyR]

I'd suggest breaking that down into a couple of parts.

Wow!! Ok, so the bottom line is if you're doing lots of rendering go Xeons, otherwise go Core 2 duo. Will be interesting to see what AMD come up with next. Still not much in it either way. I also have a 4400+, based on your comments I should get another year out of it at least.

The API is nearly at the point a decent benchmarking command could be written. Might have to think about that. I wrote a simple single threaded one that walked the tree but it would be good to be able to test IO etc.

Guy

[patricks]

Dang my 180 didn't hold up long! I'm going to run it again, but shut down every running task I can before, and see if it makes a difference. Our machine has 8 gigs of ram, but I don't know if IT did the 3 gig switch or not. How can I check?

On my machine there are 4 1GB sticks installed, but if I right-click on My Computer and go to Properties, it only lists 3 GB of RAM installed. I'm guessing the 3GB switch would make it show 4 GB but I haven't tried it yet.

[kclark.128193]

Has anybody figured out the issue several people here have reported concerning the rendering stalling (for several minutes) at about 18% on each view? I'm experiencing the problem on both Revit machines in the office and getting horrendous benchmark times.

The machine that the following benchmark was run on is a dual core 3.4ghz Pentium with 2gb of ram and a FireGL V5000 video card. The other is a dual Xeon system and returned equally bad results. We're new to Revit in the office and I'm wondering if we have some configuration issues that I need to be concerned with.

Thanks!

Kevin


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Test Date : 2/1/2007
Test Start Time: 1:08:03 PM

Exterior Rendering: 415 seconds
Interior Rendering: 577 seconds
Radiosity: 534 seconds
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Total Time: 1526 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:33:38 PM
Your Score: 92.1554770318021

[funkman]

ok, this is interesting....rebuilt system due to a corrupt hard drive - thankfully raid 5 worked. Saw the opportunity to toss out my XP64 - was a dog - and went back to XP Pro. Running on 3GB Ram now. And I can finally see my thumbnails in explorer again - woohooo!



old score on 64x was 163.745583038869

new score:
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Test Date : 6/02/2007
Test Start Time: 8:32:35 AM

Exterior Rendering: 91 seconds
Interior Rendering: 257 seconds
Radiosity: 63 seconds
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Total Time: 411 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:40:16 AM
Your Score: 170.95406360424
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^ now that is a fast radiosity.


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CPU - AMD A64 4600+ dualcore
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
Support Raid 0,Raid 1 and Raid0+1 and RAID 5
4G (4x 1G) DDR400 PC3200 Kingmax RAM (3GB for XP Pro)
3 x 200Gb 8m Buffer SATA Seagate HDD run in RAID 5 Mode - 1.44FDD
Leadtek Quadro FX1300 Card with DVI
Windows XP Pro (SP2)

[slengineering]

I ran the render version 6 on my RS 4.0. Below are my results.

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Test Date : 2/19/2007
Test Start Time: 2:35:22 PM

Exterior Rendering: 109 seconds
Interior Rendering: 316 seconds
Radiosity: 149 seconds
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Total Time: 574 seconds

Test Finish Time: 2:45:54 PM
Your Score: 159.434628975265

System info:
I have a Gateway GT5082
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 2Ghz, 2000Mhz system bus
512 KB L2 cache (each core)
3GB Ram (DDR 3200)
nVIDIA GeForce 6100 integrated video (128MB shared, I think)
250 GB hard drive w/ 2MB cache

I have also installed a second slave hard drive (10GB) set up as the page file.

I am new to Revit, so I don't quite know how to interpret the results. Anyway, I was wondering if someone here could help me with a problem with which Autodesk Tech Support was unable to fully assist me.

I was working on my first structural project on Revit, and created a small project file (<9MB). It is a 3-story stick framed building with an internal steel frame. I modeled all of the floor joists and created the exterior walls as floor to floor segments. After I got it all in, it would take at least a couple of minutes to make any sort of change and then have the model regenerate. The CPU usage was pegged at 100% for both cores. With Revit running in the background and no project open, the CPU usage is a minimum of 50%. Just moving the mouse around will spike it to over 65%. The commit charge is well below the available memory. Any ideas as to why the system is so slow?

Autodesk suggested that there may be an problem with the RAM.

Thanks in advance,

Steve

[gwnelson]

I upgraded Mobo, CPU & Mem last nite. For starters, everything worked.

New hardware is:
Asus P5N-SLI Mobo
Intel E6700 Dual Core CPU
2 G 533 MHz Kingston RAM

Old Graphics card is PNY Quadro FX1400

Runing WinXP Pro

Results:
Test Date : 3/15/2007
Test Start Time: 7:29:13 PM

Exterior Rendering: 75 seconds
Interior Rendering: 208 seconds
Radiosity: 98 seconds
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Total Time: 381 seconds

Test Finish Time: 7:36:13 PM
Your Score: 173.074204946996

Very happy tonite.

[truevis]

..... After I got it all in, it would take at least a couple of minutes to make any sort of change and then have the model regenerate. The CPU usage was pegged at 100% for both cores. With Revit running in the background and no project open, the CPU usage is a minimum of 50%. Just moving the mouse around will spike it to over 65%. The commit charge is well below the available memory. Any ideas as to why the system is so slow?...
You have a serious problem. I'd check the Task Manager first and see if it really is Revit pegging out a CPU. Get startup.exe from Mike Lin and turn off all the junk in your startup. If you can't fix what the problem is clean-install Windows forthwith.

[slengineering]

Truevis,

Thanks for considering this issue. Yes, I have checked the Task Manager, and Revit is the hog. The "CPU" as well as "Mem Usage" and "VM Size" readouts all indicate that Revit is eating up resources. I have not gotten around to it yet, but I thought perhaps of uninstalling and reinstalling Revit. My original install was a Demo version downloaded from the web. I simply entered my SN from Autodesk and unlocked my install. Revit is the only piece of software that bogs my system down. I run several other structural modeling/analysis programs, but this one is the only one that does this (two others will occupy about 50% of the system resources, but they don't have the graphical drain on the system like Revit).

Autodesk thought that my RAM might be bad. I tested it with some downloaded software, and they seem fine. The only other thing that they could come up with is my video card. It is a common card for a typical computer from a chain store (home computer) as opposed to a workstation type business computer.

I was also wondering about the integrated video card. My system info says that I have 512Mb, but this has to shared memory. I did not know if it was integrated into the MB, if that would somehow tie up the system resources differently than a non-integrated card in trying to process all of the graphical info.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Steve

[Batman]

You should probably address this in another thread so as to keep the benchmark results clean of these posts.

I presume you've already unchecked the 'Use OpenGL Hardware Acceleration' option?

[BMcCallum]

MacBook Pro Render Benchmark Results:

Hardware:
MacBook Pro 2.33
2GB RAM
160GB HD

Windows XP Pro
BootCamp 1.2 w/ 2GB RAM

Exterior Rendering: 88 seconds
Interior Rendering: 224 seconds
Radiosity: 116 seconds
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Total Time: 428 seconds

Test Finish Time: 4:09:49 PM
Your Score: 169.752650176678

Windows XP Pro
Parallels Desktop running BootCamp partition w/ 1.5 GB RAM

Exterior Rendering: 168 seconds
Interior Rendering: 423 seconds
Radiosity: 194 seconds
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Total Time: 785 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:37:30 AM
Your Score: 144.52296819788

[ejburrell67787]

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Test Date : 07/04/2007
Test Start Time: 19:14:43

Exterior Rendering: 1030 seconds
Interior Rendering: 4008 seconds
Radiosity: 2494 seconds
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Total Time: 7532 seconds

Test Finish Time: 21:28:33
Your Score: -332.296819787986Wow check out how long it took my poor old laptop to struggle through the benchmark test... 2hr 14min!!! :shock:

MS Win 2000 SP4
Intel Pentium III 1200MHz
512MB RAM

Poor old thing... :|

I'll do a benchmark on Revit / Parallels on my Mac at work on Tuesday and see how that compares... :twisted:

[BMcCallum]

Interesting to note that the render performance in Parallels was roughly the same as my Dell laptop.

And, the performance of Parallels was about 15% slower than BootCamp.

The nerd in me likes to know. :-)

[ejburrell67787]

Interesting to note that the render performance in Parallels was roughly the same as my Dell laptop.

And, the performance of Parallels was about 15% slower than BootCamp.

The nerd in me likes to know. :-)Well in your setup there is less RAM available for Parallels than for Bootcamp so that might be the difference. I have Parallels running straight inside OS X without a bootcamp partition so it will be interesting to see how that goes - I'll do it with 1.5GB RAM (max) and 1GB RAM (general allocation to allow OS X to run smoothly) to see what the difference is.

[Paul Andersen]

I've personally been a pretty big Dell fan and the numerous threads (including this one) on the new MacBook Pro have me a bit intrigued. That being said, I performance spec'd a new laptop for my primary computer at the office and the IT staff ordered up an HP Compaq nc8430 to test. I have to say that I am quite impressed with the overall design, function and performance of this one. The only drawback so far is having to duct tape the webcam on ;) .

HP Compaq nc8430
Intel Core 2 T7200 at 2.00 GHz
2 GB of RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
WindowsXP Pro SP2
$1695

Revit Render Benchmark - v.01
Use at your own risk
4/30/2004
render-bench6.txt

Test Date: 4/8/2007
Test Start Time: 10:59:00 AM

Exterior Rendering: 123 seconds
Interior Rendering: 272 seconds
Radiosity: 139 seconds

Total Time: 534 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:08:39 AM
Your Score: 162.26148409894

[ejburrell67787]

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Test Date : 10/04/2007
Test Start Time: 09:24:15

Exterior Rendering: 138 seconds
Interior Rendering: 367 seconds
Radiosity: 183 seconds
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Total Time: 688 seconds

Test Finish Time: 09:36:24
Your Score: 151.378091872792First test on my work Intel Mac in Parallels
2x2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
1GB RAM allocated to Parallels

Not bad... 8-)

[ejburrell67787]

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Test Date : 10/04/2007
Test Start Time: 09:42:36

Exterior Rendering: 138 seconds
Interior Rendering: 363 seconds
Radiosity: 179 seconds
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Total Time: 680 seconds

Test Finish Time: 09:54:38
Your Score: 151.943462897527So I allocated 1.5GB RAM to Parallels (maximum) and it only improved things a little knocking 4 seconds off the interior and the radiosity...

[ws]

Just tried the benchtest 6 on Revit 9.1 on my
Workstation from http://www.armari.com (http://www.armari.com/) in London
dual dual Xeon 5150, XP SP2
4GB ram
PNY Quadro FX1500
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Test Date : 12/04/2007
Test Start Time: 16:32:49

Exterior Rendering: 41 seconds
Interior Rendering: 103 seconds
Radiosity: 61 seconds
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Total Time: 205 seconds

Test Finish Time: 16:36:52
Your Score: 185.512367491166

[ejburrell67787]

Just tried the benchtest 6 on Revit 9.1 on my
Workstation from http://www.armari.com (http://www.armari.com/) in London
dual dual Xeon 5150, XP SP2
4GB ram
PNY Quadro FX1500

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Total Time: 205 seconds

Test Finish Time: 16:36:52
Your Score: 185.512367491166Wow fast! 8-)

is a dual dual a quad by chance? ;)

[ws]

No it's a dual dual-Xeon (if you see what I mean ;-))

Yes, surprised me how quick it was but I guess a rendering test shows the multi-processors at their best - in regular Revit use I see little difference from older PCs.

Strangely enough I tried re-running the test with every unnecessary process removed... and it came out fractionally slower.

[nicholas_baum]

Sager NP5750-V laptop
Intel Core 2 T7200 at 2.00 GHz
2 GB of RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 w/128MB
80 GB SATA 7200rpm
WindowsXP Pro SP2
Revit 9.1

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Test Date : 4/20/2007
Test Start Time: 8:48:18 PM

Exterior Rendering: 101 seconds
Interior Rendering: 258 seconds
Radiosity: 127 seconds
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Total Time: 486 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:57:17 PM
Your Score: 165.65371024735

I noticed the benchmark loads and updates the revit file before starting. I guess everyone includes this update process in there benchmark. Yes?

Thanks for the reply Truevis.
OK -- below is the results with updated file & Norton turned off.
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Test Date : 4/21/2007
Test Start Time: 11:15:54 AM

Exterior Rendering: 100 seconds
Interior Rendering: 254 seconds
Radiosity: 126 seconds
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Total Time: 480 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:24:04 AM
Your Score: 166.077738515901

Nick
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Nicholas Baum, LEED AP
Chaleff & Rogers, Architects
Water Mill, NY 11976
www.chaleffandrogers.com
www.renderworkshop.com

[truevis]

...I noticed the benchmark loads and updates the revit file before starting. I guess everyone includes this update process in there benchmark. Yes?
...No, I upgraded and saved, then rebooted & did the benchmark again. Make sure that all other programs like virus checkers are closed.

[truevis]

...
I was also wondering about the integrated video card. My system info says that I have 512Mb, but this has to shared memory. I did not know if it was integrated into the MB, if that would somehow tie up the system resources differently than a non-integrated card in trying to process all of the graphical info...512Mb is not enough RAM for Revit, really. At least reduce the setting on your video down to 32Mb.

PS: I doubt OpenGL will affect the test much.

[TroyGates]

New system, Revit Arch 2008

Dell Precision Workstation 690
Dual Xeon E5320 (Quad Core) @ 1.86GHz
3 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI w/ 256MB


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Test Date : 5/31/2007
Test Start Time: 9:23:15 AM

Exterior Rendering: 47 seconds
Interior Rendering: 96 seconds
Radiosity: 61 seconds
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Total Time: 204 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:26:48 AM
Your Score: 185.583038869258

[joakim]

Dell Precision 390
Intel Core2 Duo 6700 (2.66GHz)
2GB DDR2 667 ECC dual channel memory
ATI FireGL V7200 256Mb
160GB HD (7,200RPM) SATA2
Win XP Pro
Revit Arch 2008


Test Date : 01.06.2007
Test Start Time: 10:26:07

Exterior Rendering: 96 seconds
Interior Rendering: 204 seconds
Radiosity: 104 seconds
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Total Time: 404 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:32:57
Your Score: 171,448763250883


Revit and a killer graphic card still no good… Wonder why??

[Henry D]

Still looks pretty good...this score seems to be in line with the other Intel Core2 Duo processors. I don't think that a "killer" graphics card will give you a higher score. The higher scores seem to be with the Xeons.

[joakim]

Dell Precision 490 (old type)
Intel Dual-Core Xeon (3.73GHz)
2GB DDR2 533 ECC quad channel fdb memory
ATI FireGL V7200 256Mb
36GB HD (15, 000RPM) SAS
Win XP Pro
Revit Arch 2008

Test Date : 01.06.2007
Test Start Time: 21:43:39

Exterior Rendering: 140 seconds
Interior Rendering: 264 seconds
Radiosity: 143 seconds
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Total Time: 547 seconds

Test Finish Time: 21:52:56
Your Score: 161,342756183746

[tc3dcad60731]

ok - where can you find the txt file that is needed for this. Did I miss something here...... usually the case ;)

[iru69]

ok - where can you find the txt file that is needed for this. Did I miss something here...... usually the case ;)
It's a sticky thread about five threads down from this one:
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=3689

[tc3dcad60731]

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Test Date : 6/6/2007
Test Start Time: 1:14:44 PM

Exterior Rendering: 303 seconds
Interior Rendering: 709 seconds
Radiosity: 319 seconds
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Total Time: 1331 seconds

Test Finish Time: 1:38:18 PM
Your Score: 105.936395759717

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Win XP Pro SP 2
2405Mhz Processor (P4)
1.25 GB Ram (776 Free)
2gb Virtual Memory
4.23 GB Page File

ATI Radeon 9250 AGP 256MB

[lenny_p]

My office has not made the switch to Revit yet but I believe that sooner rather than later they will. I downloaded trial versions of 9.1 and later Revit Architecture 2008 to see how my less than 2 year old home Dell XPS 600 could handle the program since I had decided to buy a Revit for myself to learn the program at home.
What I noticed in the small time period that I had the trial version was that the 2d portion of the program runs well but when fooling around with the included 3d demo's the performance went down substantially.
I then found AUGI and this thread and decided to take the plunge and try the test.

My Home PC set up.

Dell XPS 600
Windows XP Pro
Intel Pentium D 840 (3.20 GHz)
2.00 GB Ram
Dual Video Cards (Not SLI mode) Nvidia 7800gtx 256mb
3 monitor set up 2 Dell 19 flat and 1 Dell 24" Flat

Aproximately 65 processes active with 6 Internet explorer windows active.

Test 1 Revit Arch 9.1

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Test Date : 8/5/2007
Test Start Time: 2:36:09 PM

Exterior Rendering: 140 seconds
Interior Rendering: 304 seconds
Radiosity: 154 seconds
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Total Time: 598 seconds

Test Finish Time: 2:47:18 PM
Your Score: 157.73851590106


Test 2 Revit Arch 2008
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Test Date : 8/5/2007
Test Start Time: 2:50:39 PM

Exterior Rendering: 167 seconds
Interior Rendering: 323 seconds
Radiosity: 170 seconds
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Total Time: 660 seconds

Test Finish Time: 3:02:38 PM
Your Score: 153.356890459364


Needless to say that I was surprised by both test scores since some of the results from newer and more powerful computers are similar.
My only guess are that the Pentium D 840 is a multi core processor which may help some in the rendering part or that the newer versions of Revit just work faster.
In viewing the results for the MAC Pro, I just do not understand why my results are better or even close.
I love the Mac's but I am afraid to commit that kind of cash and not get the best results possible.
If anyone can comment on this i would appreciate it. I want to buy a new computer soon to finally install Revit 2008 and begin to learn the program.
Regards to all and thank you for all the knowledge that you share on this site.

[ws]

I lose track of processors as they come thick and fast these days, however I think the Intel Pentium D 840 was indeed a dual core processor - possibly also with Hyperthreading which can make it appear to be 4 processors. Hyperthreading I think is a feature available to later Pentium 4 processors - my older dual Xeons have it enabled.

(Not sure but I think the more recent Core Duo processors are based on the Pentium 3 design?).

Any dual core processor is going to give you good results in this benchtest as the rendering engine takes advantage of the extra processors.
Therafter it comes down to clock speed, maybe memory and the law of diminishing returns ;)

[lenny_p]

William thanks for the reply.
Yes the Pentium D I believe was the first of the dual core processors and it does have Hyper threading enabled. Unfortunately it runs very hot and it consumes a lot of electricity. I have never been very happy with the performance and these were very quickly overtaken with the faster and wider front side bus processors. Things do not run very well anymore in my PC, so I am ready to take the plunge and buy a new computer. It's just a little confusing when I see some of the results at least in the rendering test. yours is so far the most impressive but you did say that you did not feel any performance change in day to day operations. Then the Mac test result posted by Elrond really disappointed me seeing how expensive that system is and being that it is a similar configuration to your system. The only thing I can determine in comparing the Mac and yours is that the Mac cannot take advantage of the processing power while running XP either on boot camp or parallels
Right now I am more inclined to stay with a windows based system.

I

[ws]

I did consider a Mac Pro as the dual Xeon 5150 model seemed substantially less expensive than the PC equivalent - but when you added in more memory it came to much the same price.

Case designs may have improved since I bought my dual Xeon but the fan noise is considerably more than you would get from a Mac Pro.

The core-duo Xeon machines produce a lot of heat - not only the Xeon processors, but the memory has heatsinks as well.
I recently cleaned under the fans of the huge Xeon heatsinks and was surprised by the amount of dust clogging the copper fins, but hidden from view until the fan was removed.
I bought this machine specifically for rendering in my Allplan/Cinema 4D workflow - but since I've started with Revit I have not got as far as high end rendering.

If I was buying a machine for Revit now I think I would be happy with a single core-duo processor machine... at least until the next round of processor designs and 64 bit Revit eventually appears ;)

[blads]

Having just but in a new motherboard after two years (thankfully it was a warranty replacement). Previous test results can be found here...

New beastie:
Computer: by KingBlads, assembled by Business Technology Systems
Intel Core2 Duo Desktop Processor E6600 - 2.40 GHz
2GB DDR667 Ram
Xenon Systems Quadro nVIDIA FX 540 128Mb PCI-E video card (driver version = 7.1.8.4)
XP Pro SP2
Revit Arch 2008

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' render-bench6.txt

Test Date : 9/08/2007
Test Start Time: 11:50:50 AM

Exterior Rendering: 145 seconds
Interior Rendering: 303 seconds
Radiosity: 143 seconds
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Total Time: 591 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:00:41 PM
Your Score: 151.204946996466

[edneyd]

HP dv9000 Pavilion Laptop
Intel Core2 Duo T7200 @ 2.00 GHz
2 gig ram
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 256 mb
Win XP Media Center 2005
RAC 2008 Build 20070607_1700


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Test Date : 8/11/2007
Test Start Time: 6:35:03 PM

Exterior Rendering: 120 seconds
Interior Rendering: 277 seconds
Radiosity: 139 seconds
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Total Time: 536 seconds

Test Finish Time: 6:44:08 PM
Your Score: 162.120141342756

[rodgersmatt66]

Dell Precision 690 w/ Xeon 5355 Quadcore (adding second quad core soon)
Nvidia Quadro FX 3450
2 GB RAM (soon adding 8 more GB)
w/ 10k rpm hard-drive

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Test Date : 8/24/2007
Test Start Time: 9:54:24 AM

Exterior Rendering: 54 seconds
Interior Rendering: 116 seconds
Radiosity: 67 seconds
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Total Time: 237 seconds

Test Finish Time: 9:58:54 AM
Your Score: 183.250883392226

[neb1998]

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
2 gig ram
raptor harddrive
msi mainboard
zalman air cooling
overclocked to 3.4 ghz with stock voltage
ati x1900 XT video card with 256 ddr3

This is a custom build of mine, price from newegg brand new approx 1500 dollars. The processor can be oc'ed to 4 ghz with water cooling and voltages under 1.6 cpu core - dell provides 3 year warranties on their OC'ed systems up to 1.6 volts - so the processor should last a while.



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Test Date : 8/27/2007
Test Start Time: 12:07:31 PM

Exterior Rendering: 82 seconds
Interior Rendering: 141 seconds
Radiosity: 86 seconds
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Total Time: 309 seconds

Test Finish Time: 12:13:04 PM
Your Score: 178.162544169611

[rookwood]

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Revit Render Benchmark - v.01
Use at your own risk
4/30/2004
render-bench6.txt

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Test Date : 8/31/2007
Test Start Time: 11:04:08 AM

Exterior Rendering: 38 seconds
Interior Rendering: 77 seconds
Radiosity: 48 seconds
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Total Time: 163 seconds

Test Finish Time: 11:07:00 AM
Your Score: 188.480565371025

CUSTOM ASSEMBLY:
Intel Workstation Board S5000XVN
2x Quad-Core Intel Processor E5345 – 2.33 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 2x4 M cache
Quadro FX 4600 – PCI Express x16 – 768 MB GDDR3 – DVI
4x Western Digital Serial ATA (SATA), Raptor 3.5” Internal Hard Drive, 150 GB, 10,000 RPM
SC5299WS (Pilot Point 4 WS) with 670W fixed PSU, supports up to 150W workstation graphics card
Kingston 4GB FB-DIMM RAM
Windows VISTA Business

[Wes Macaulay]

163 seconds! that's a blazing fast time, there... despite the score, I'd say we have a winner!

[clog boy]

Terible results:

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Test Date : 13-9-2007
Test Start Time: 14:23:59

Exterior Rendering: 585 seconds
Interior Rendering: 662 seconds
Radiosity: 473 seconds
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Total Time: 1720 seconds

Test Finish Time: 14:54:21
Your Score: 78,4452296819788

HP Workstation xw4100
Pentium 4 3.00 ghz
RAM 2.5GB
NVidia Quadro4 XGL

Will test it on my home PC. I will also contact my system administrator for giving me such a heap of junk :)

[tmomeyer]

Just a reminder for those testing. Ran some Render Benchmark tests recently and found that with Rendering content folder on the server the tests took approx 3 x longer to complete versus locating the same folder on the local machine. Approx 400 seconds local versus 1200 seconds with Rendering folder on the server.

[clog boy]

I did ran it local, what might be the reason it's slow? OpenGL? In that case I'm pretty much out of luck, since OpenGL traces black rays instead of shadows with my card.

[rmejia]

Dell Precision 690
Dual Xeon X5355 @ 2.66ghz

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Test Date : 9/14/2007
Test Start Time: 8:53:17 AM

Exterior Rendering: 33 seconds
Interior Rendering: 68 seconds
Radiosity: 44 seconds
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Total Time: 145 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:56:13 AM
Your Score: 189.752650176678

[graeme.padgham]

Dell Precision 390, Quad Core Xeon
E5320 1.86Ghz
4GB Ram, XP Pro
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Test Date : 03/10/2007
Test Start Time: 15:14:48

Exterior Rendering: 68 seconds
Interior Rendering: 159 seconds
Radiosity: 91 seconds
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Total Time: 318 seconds

Test Finish Time: 15:20:52
Your Score: 177.526501766784

[luigi]

Hi, how much memory do you have? and do you have the 3GB switch activated?

Thanks,

Luigi

Dell Precision 690
Dual Xeon X5355 @ 2.66ghz

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Test Date : 9/14/2007
Test Start Time: 8:53:17 AM

Exterior Rendering: 33 seconds
Interior Rendering: 68 seconds
Radiosity: 44 seconds
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Total Time: 145 seconds

Test Finish Time: 8:56:13 AM
Your Score: 189.752650176678

[rmejia]

Luigi:

8 gigs ram and XP64 (no 3gig switch)
video= Nvidia 8800GTS

The main reason for the rendering speed is the 2 quad core Xeons.

[luigi]

Thanks Robert, that's a heck of a machine!!!!...great for rendering especially...

How does revit handle such power? Do you see speed improvement because of the extra ram the 64bit allows? Do you also have a good video card that works well with Revit? (EDITED: I will check on the internet the type of nvidia you have)

in curiousity,

Luigi

Luigi:

8 gigs ram and XP64 (no 3gig switch)
video= Nvidia 8800GTS

The main reason for the rendering speed is the 2 quad core Xeons.

[rmejia]

Luigi:

The machine was built primarily for rendering, and that it does very well. As far as Revit performance goes, there is a speed improvement due to the greater capacity of the machine. It can handle bigger files where another computer would probably crash. When editing site, this computers is able to do it, while another lesser computer here crashes. Also a site file that has 9 buildings linked to it can be opened in the dual quad, but on the other computer it can't, only about half of the buildings can be opened. As far as speed when editing things, it is not much faster. Revit only uses 1 core for this, so a dual core computer with over 3ghz speed would do it faster. Rendering uses all cores available, so it renders 8x as faster.

From this experience if I were to build another machine to run Revit it would probably be a quad core (like the Intel Q6600) with 4gb ram and xp 64. Unfortunately Revit not being 64bit I have lost the ability to see thumbnail previews of the files, making it frustrating to find things now.

The video card works very well with Viz/Max, but it does_not_work well with Revit OpenGL. Not a good card for Revit.

[tmomeyer]

Luigi:

8 gigs ram and XP64 (no 3gig switch)
video= Nvidia 8800GTS

The main reason for the rendering speed is the 2 quad core Xeons.

For more on the nVidia 8800 geForce:
http://www.xicomputer.com/new/welcome.html#GeForce™%208800
"the new 8800 series have a very special feature that justifies its adoption for CAD, even against the more popular (and way more expensive) Nvidia® Quadro™ counterparts: it supports Direct X10 3D standards via accelerated on-board hardware. Now the really interesting part: a subset of DX10 HW accelerated functions is overlapping some of the Open-GL 2.0 (historically only HW accelerated on the Quadro™ video cards) used by the Autodesk® family of products like AutoCAD, 3ds Max etc."

And for the GeForce Go 7950 GTX
http://manufacturing.cadalyst.com/manufacturing/Review/Cadalyst-Labs-Review-CAD-Unplugged/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/443970?contextCategoryId=6636
"the display was driven by an NVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX graphics card with 512 MB of memory installed." ..."These are the best performance numbers to date for a mobile workstation system in Cadalyst Labs"

And, in another BIM forum, someone notes preference for a 'Gamers' video card (not a 'Workstation' class). that 'sounds' like an ATI dual type of card... it's two video cards bonded together with a total of 1 gb RAM... best I can tell from the description, it looks like a Sapphire x1950 Pro Dual that is oversized and requires an extended computer case. Approx internet cost for the card $400.

Tom

[Tobie]

MacBook Pro
2.40 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache
3056 Megabytes Installed Memory
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT [Display adapter]
Windows XP SP2 32 bit running in bootcamp
No 3Gig switch activated


Test Date : 15/10/2007
Test Start Time: 9:54:59 AM

Exterior Rendering: 105 seconds
Interior Rendering: 232 seconds
Radiosity: 116 seconds
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Total Time: 453 seconds

Test Finish Time: 10:02:41 AM
Your Score: 167.985865724382

[clog boy]

Just a reminder for those testing. Ran some Render Benchmark tests recently and found that with Rendering content folder on the server the tests took approx 3 x longer to complete versus locating the same folder on the local machine. Approx 400 seconds local versus 1200 seconds with Rendering folder on the server.

Finally understand what you was indicating. I copied the renderer and the library to my hard disk and tried again.
Will probably attempt the same on my home PC this weekend.

Results:
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Test Date : 26-10-2007
Test Start Time: 13:41:33

Exterior Rendering: 215 seconds
Interior Rendering: 402 seconds
Radiosity: 279 seconds
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Total Time: 896 seconds

Test Finish Time: 13:57:35
Your Score: 136,678445229682

Same machine as before, a HP Workstation xw 4100.
So it is fair to say that on this particular network rendering takes 100% more time when the rendering module and the library are on the server. The server is on a remote location, with a fiberglass connection to this office. The network speed on this end is 100mbit and I hardly ever experience slow network traffic.

My home PC will have an AMD64 AthlonX2 4800+ (2.5GHZ), 2GB of RAM and a nVidia 7600GT.


More news as it happens.

[clog boy]

My home PC got 495 seconds on RB9.1.
It has a Windows Experience Index (Vista) of 5.1.

Specs in previous post, standalone machine. The SATA-II harddrive with 8MB cache might help too.

[goral01]

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

8.00 GB Installed Memory
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
No 3Gig switch activated
1192 GB Harddrive 7200 rpm


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Test Date : 11.11.2007
Test Start Time: 17:49:38

Exterior Rendering: 58 seconds
Interior Rendering: 128 seconds
Radiosity: 73 seconds
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Total Time: 259 seconds

Test Finish Time: 17:54:32
Your Score: 181,696113074205