Fire rating line for walls

[Steve_Bennett]

Has anyone out there any experiance creating their own fire rating lines that attach to AEC walls? You know, like the ones in Design Center that auto layer key, and center themselves on the wall style?

[david_peterson]

I have one. (If I can find it) I believe that you need the display config for it as well. Do you need it?

[Steve_Bennett]

If it part of a wall style, then that is not what I'm looking for. If it is not part of a wall style then I'll definitely take it!

[david_peterson]

I believe we had it set up to work with a "Fire Rating" display config. It was built in to the wall. Or at least I think it was. I didn't create it. It was part of our intial set up for ADT through Adesk, before the Archies decided they didn't like it :cry: . So now I'm the only one in an office of 250 that even has it loaded on their workstation.

[Steve_Bennett]

Not what I was looking for. To clarify what I'm looking to customize I've attached a screen shot of Design Center looking at the content that needs to change.

[cgraham]

Steve,

I have shied away from that concept in the design center. The reason is that the indicator is nothing more than a polyline that obliterates openings, doors and windows in the wall. Even if you were to break the p-line at the openings, there is an extra few steps any time anything about the wall that changes.

Through some third party programs I have created hatch patterns that are applied to the wall style, and thus, act like any other pattern display. As stated above, this pattern is display configuration dependent.

[Steve_Bennett]

Steve,

I have shied away from that concept in the design center. The reason is that the indicator is nothing more than a polyline that obliterates openings, doors and windows in the wall. Even if you were to break the p-line at the openings, there is an extra few steps any time anything about the wall that changes.

Through some third party programs I have created hatch patterns that are applied to the wall style, and thus, act like any other pattern display. As stated above, this pattern is display configuration dependent.I think that is they way we will be going, it's a matter of convincing them it's better to embed it in the wall style. They previously had each of their fire rating lines on the tool palettes and wanted the same. We'll see how it goes.

[dhallett]

We set it up that back in ADT3.0 and it still works fine. I've attached the hatch patterns and some sample walls.

[cgraham]

Dhallett,

That is exactly what I was talking about. You can go further and add properties to the wall styles to aid in estimating, based on rated and non-rated walls.

[Marv Muston]

Hi folks

I am needing to create a 3-hr rated aec linetype like Steve asked for from DC. Is there one available? How can I copy an existing one and modify it to what I want??

I don't want to use the wall style for this. I'd rather use like what is already in DC.

Can someone help me please?

Much thanks!
Marv

[Marv Muston]

Hi folks....

Never mind my request, I figured it out and added it to Design Center with the rest of them.

Thanks anyway!!
Marv

[tatriest]

Here is the OOTB Fire-Rating polylines attached to the wall style (thru a Display Rep) and used the STB settings for the following:

--it has been screened to 50%,
--set to 0.080 for 1/4" plotting,
--set to "Buttt" Line End Style.

Terry

[Marv Muston]

Not what I was looking for. To clarify what I'm looking to customize I've attached a screen shot of Design Center looking at the content that needs to change.
Hi folks.

How do you handle: Using the AEC lines in design center.....If I am drawing a multi-unit (condo units) building. ...I have drawn each unit as a separate construct, then, put them together where needed in the view drawings.
How can I use the design center fire rating line(s) in the view? It will not let me drop it in since it is an xref, not an "original" wall.
I need to put it into the view drawing because where units have the partywall, I make that wall 4" in the construct, so that when combined in the view there is a total of 8" width to the partywall (so It looks like one wall).

Thanks!
Marv

[tatriest]

You could add the following code to your ACAD.LIN file, then place the polylines manaully:

*Aec_Rating_1HR-Smoke,Smoke Rating
A,0.075,-0.1
*Aec_Rating_2Hr-Smoke,2 Hour Fire & Smoke Rating
A,0.375,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125
*Aec_Rating_1Hr,1 Hour Fire Rating
A,0.375,-0.1,0.075,-0.1
*Aec_Rating_2Hr,2 Hour Fire Rating
A,0.375,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125
*Aec_Rating_4Hr,4 Hour Fire Rating
A,0.375,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125,0.075,-0.125

These are extracted from the Design Center linetypes.

Terry

[Marv Muston]

Yep!

I thought about that also.
What I actually did was drop in a quick wall into the view, add the fire rating line, erase the wall and then moved the rating line into place.

Thanks!
Marv