Title Blocks - Bottom or Side?

[Ms. Serene]

I have a question... what is the most commonlly used location for titleblock information...along the bottom of the sheet or along the side?

[Ogre]

While we are not an Arch firm, but a manufactiring facility, we are currently locating everything on the side, but since we use a 11x17 title block, it is rather difficult to fit everything neatly...I am about to implement a 11x17 where the info in on the bottom...It adds a little more room for info and I was able to spread it out a little to keep them same amount of sheet space...

[Ms. Serene]

that makes sense to me.... The reason I was asking was because I am currently working on a committee that is revising the National Cad Standard (NIBS) and a few of the other committee memebers wants to put a statement about what the most commonally used titleblock form was..... I figured that this Forum might be the best source of information.

[Ogre]

that makes sense to me.... The reason I was asking was because I am currently working on a committee that is revising the National Cad Standard (NIBS) and a few of the other committee memebers wants to put a statement about what the most commonally used titleblock form was..... I figured that this Forum might be the best source of information.
You may also want to ask the forums over at CADalyst (http://forums.cadalyst.com/) and see whay they think...Not all of their members are AUGI members...I think they will help you to get more feedback...

[Ms. Serene]

Cool.... Thanks

[BrenBren]

I have a question... what is the most commonlly used location for titleblock information...along the bottom of the sheet or along the side?

We put our title block information in the lower right hand corner, revision information to the left of that, and any customer specific information above our title block. When we fold our D size sheets to 8 1/2 X 11 sheets; all of the pertinent information shows up when folded correctly.

[Ms. Serene]

The titleblocks I used in the military were like that, but since I got out of the service I haven't seen anyone else do it that way... I think folks forget to think about what the sheets look like folded or what information should be showing.

[BrenBren]

The titleblocks I used in the military were like that, but since I got out of the service I haven't seen anyone else do it that way... I think folks forget to think about what the sheets look like folded or what information should be showing.

It's funny you should say that, because every so often someone says "do you think we should change our sheet layout, I see lots of people have all the title block informations spread out across the bottom of the page"; and I have to refresh their memories as to why we do it the way we do it...

Oh, yea, that makes sense, then.

Why can't they just leave well enough alone ;)

[Ms. Serene]

Why can't they just leave well enough alone ;)
I guess it is the nature of folks in charge to muck things up

[jaberwok]

It's funny you should say that, because every so often someone says "do you think we should change our sheet layout, I see lots of people have all the title block informations spread out across the bottom of the page"; and I have to refresh their memories as to why we do it the way we do it...

Oh, yea, that makes sense, then.

Why can't they just leave well enough alone ;)


Oh yeah.
People forget that there are reasons that things are the way they are.
Mainly, the reason is "it works".

[Ms. Serene]

Oh yeah.
People forget that there are reasons that things are the way they are.
Mainly, the reason is "it works".
I think that sometimes it's because they want to put their own stamp on things.

[lem]

I agree that most people don't like to change things like title blocks especially when they work & theres a million other things that need to be done.

But I feel, hopefully some will agree, you need to take some timeout & spend some time on trying to improve things even though they have & still continue to work well for your current needs. There is always room for improvement & from my experience the titleblock always seems to get the short straw in regards to updates & amendments.

No offence to those who don't know how to use attributes intended...Ha Ha Ha.

Darn Surveyors...

[stelthorst]

Since I work for a contractor I see lots of drawings and lots of different title blocks. I'd say 80% have the title information on the right hand side of the drawing. The main exception seems to be government jobs they still tend to be across the bottom or grouped on the lower right hand side of the page.

We have several title blocks we use for our coordination drawings, however we usually just utilize the original title block since it is already sized and situated to fit the drawings.

Personally, my preference for title block information is as follows:
1. All information in the lower right hand corner of the drawing.
2. All information on the right hand side of the drawing.
3. All information at the bottom of the drawing.

Just my 2c

[Wanderer]

I have a question... what is the most commonlly used location for titleblock information...along the bottom of the sheet or along the side?Interesting topic... I don't specify this in my company's cad standards, but, my counterpart out at corporate does.

I'd say more of the plans in my archives (from hundreds of companies dating back to the early 1900's) have the title block up the right side.

I prefer up the side, but, that's simply because I roll my drawings (no folding here), and like to see the titleblock in it's entirety without having to remove the rubber band.
(I added a poll, I'd like to see what others think)

[jaberwok]

Bottom-right corner every time. It works for any sheet size, rolled or folded.

The thing I really hate is when someone takes (say) an A2 sheet border, scales it up by 1.414 and calls it an A1 sheet - the title block should remain the same size - idiot!

[Brian Myers]

Bottom right corner then up the right side. I've seen 100's of different sets from companies... the vast majority (unless the shape of the building dictates differently) go from the bottom right hand corner or go up the right side.

It has to do with the ability to flip through a set and get the information / the correct sheet when they are in the drawers or when you are flipping through a large set. It's WAY easier to access the info on the right than on the bottom.

[sinc]

We put our title block information in the lower right hand corner, revision information to the left of that, and any customer specific information above our title block. When we fold our D size sheets to 8 1/2 X 11 sheets; all of the pertinent information shows up when folded correctly.

We find that, when it comes to construction, sheets are more-commonly rolled up, and not folded. If you go to a job site and walk around, you will most likely see every set of plans in a roll, and not folded. But occasionally, sheets get folded, too...

So we put our title block along the right-hand side, so the whole thing is visible when rolled-up. But the most-important information all appears in the bottom right-hand corner, so that it is also visible if the plan set is properly-folded.

...and it's also easy to flip through them when they are in a flat-file, like Dilbert says...

[Luke_W]

I have used both on the side and bottom. Right now we have our big sheets 24x36 and 30x42 with the title block along the side. Our small sheets like 11x17 it is on the bottom. My personal choice is the bottom but both options work well.

[arcadia_x27]

I have used both on the side and bottom. Right now we have our big sheets 24x36 and 30x42 with the title block along the side. Our small sheets like 11x17 it is on the bottom. My personal choice is the bottom but both options work well.
We use the same proceedure here, 11x17 or smaller sheets have the titleblock at the bottom for more width in the drawing area, larger sheets have the TB up the side

[H'Angus]

Bottom right corner for A0, A1 & A2, Along the bottom for A3 & A4. So they can be identified when folded.

[SRBalliet]

We put our title block information in the lower right hand corner, revision information to the left of that, and any customer specific information above our title block. When we fold our D size sheets to 8 1/2 X 11 sheets; all of the pertinent information shows up when folded correctly.

Same here!

[rkmcswain]

#1 rule = As specified by the approving agency or the client.

Generally, this is along the right side of the sheet, but readable from the bottom of the sheet, not from the right side. 4.5" x 7.7" plus what we add ourselves

http://www.houstoncec.org/documents/COHCOV.pdf

[revacservice]

By and large down here the title block is up the right hand side, however this is varied sometimes to get a whole floor plan on one sheet.

When I'm setting out a title block the revision is in the bottom right and corner, the drawing number immediately adjacent with the title next and project name working up the page or towards the left, scale date etc filling up any free space.

In this way all the important identifying information is readily accessible if the drawing is stored in a draw or folded.

Company logos etc. are next in line with the revision notes last towards the top or far left.

Don Smith