View Full Version : Annotation - Bracing Tag
Mr Cory
2007-03-15, 10:13 PM
Not sure if anyone would use this but it can be changed to suit different types of bracing, just edit the lookup tables. Nothing too fancy more of a time saver then a looker lol let me know what you think. For it to print properly you need to change colour 220 to have square line ends
Chris.N
2007-03-15, 11:50 PM
Not sure if anyone would use this but it can be changed to suit different types of bracing, just edit the lookup tables. Nothing too fancy more of a time saver then a looker lol let me know what you think. For it to print properly you need to change colour 220 to have square line endsvery... erm, 'bracing'!! :lol:
ok, i'm lost, what is it used for? i've never seen something like this before.
Mr Cory
2007-03-16, 01:07 AM
Haha well here (NZ) we have to provide bracing elements (section of the building that have been strenghtened) and i use that to denote what type it is, number etc
Chris.N
2007-03-16, 01:46 AM
Haha well here (NZ) we have to provide bracing elements (section of the building that have been strenghtened) and i use that to denote what type it is, number etcthat wouldn't be anything like a 'shear' wall, would it?
Mr Cory
2007-03-16, 01:58 AM
Um is it designed to help keep a building standing in an earthquake of strong wind?
david_peterson
2007-03-16, 02:02 PM
More commonly know in the US as a Braced Frame or a Laterial frame, or a Moment frame. They all do about the same thing. A shear wall would be different in that fact that it's usually made from concrete or CMU. Although Steel shear walls are starting to become more common. But on that note, I'd rather see a nice HSS10x10x1/2 with 3/4" gusset plates over a 1/4" thick sheet of steel that block off an entire bay.
Chris.N
2007-03-16, 04:23 PM
Thank you for the explanations! Neat block, just didn't know how it was used till now. ;)
Mr Cory
2007-03-17, 02:07 AM
Cheers Chris, Our ones arent that intense, mostly they are just more rigid wall board, extra fixing and extra holding down.
Chris.N
2007-03-17, 02:28 PM
Cheers Chris, Our ones arent that intense, mostly they are just more rigid wall board, extra fixing and extra holding down.ha!! so it IS a shear wall!!!
to me, that means: plywood instead of,say... 'ext. gyp. bd. shtg' with lotsa nails per a schedule, extra blocking at all the horiz. joints, and like you said, H.D. hold-downs at each end w/ extra anchor bolts in between. we use them to keep the building from racking, and the engineer doesn't like when we put 4' wide windows at 4' o.c. in a wood framed structure... ;) and when permitted, we use cmu as a shearwall structure also. (for when we have to have such windows in walls)
i'll have to see if our struct. dept. could use something like this. (i'd add the hold-down markers at each end, too.)
Mr Cory
2007-03-18, 06:24 AM
Yea sounds similar but we get the fun job of doing it ourselves lol proves interesting sometimes lol
You just have to remember to change the plot style table because it will look bung otherwise lol
Now, I may be dense, but I only just TODAY got to checking this block.
And there's only ONE thing I don't understand .....
WHY is there a vis parameter in there if it's not being used? It's set to 0 grips and reads "Ignore".
If it's not being used ... for the simple reason of simplyfying it .... shouldn't it be deleted? Or is it serving a purpose that I'm not aware of?
Mlabell
2007-03-20, 04:49 PM
Does the stretch grip need to visible? Seems if you have lookup sizes that control the length you are asking for trouble by having an override. But then again I know nothing about shear walls and their use.
Does the stretch grip need to visible? Seems if you have lookup sizes that control the length you are asking for trouble by having an override. But then again I know nothing about shear walls and their use.
I would tend to agree with you on this one, but I know too that it's always nice to have the option to manually set the size. So I think it's a matter of preference and whether or not you want the untamed DB using masses to tweak and play freely with your masterpieces. Choice m'boy! Choice! ;)
Mr Cory
2007-03-20, 08:37 PM
Well yes it is a matter of choice but for us, the lookup gives standard sizes and the stretch allow us to stretch it to other sizes which is great because if you have a wall which is 800mm long the building wont put a bracing element in their which is 600mm and then cut more gib to fill in the gap, so if we brace the whole wall, its less work. If the stretch grip wasnt there we couldnt do that.
Mlabell
2007-03-20, 08:46 PM
Well yes it is a matter of choice but for us, the lookup gives standard sizes and the stretch allow us to stretch it to other sizes which is great because if you have a wall which is 800mm long the building wont put a bracing element in their which is 600mm and then cut more gib to fill in the gap, so if we brace the whole wall, its less work. If the stretch grip wasnt there we couldnt do that.
Makes sense. I can see the light.
Mr Cory
2007-03-20, 09:11 PM
We are probably the only ones who would ever use it lol but thought i may inspire others lol
We are probably the only ones who would ever use it lol but thought i may inspire others lol
now I wouldn't say that. Any structural guy will be able to take that and modify it to his company's need. Just cuz architectural doesn't have any use for it, doesn't mean that there's not others out there who WOULD find it useful.
I think it's cool.
Mr Cory
2007-03-20, 09:20 PM
Gez Rico youll make me blush hahaha cheers though
Gez Rico youll make me blush hahaha cheers though
No need to blush, dude. I wasn't hitting on you or offering to buy you a drink :lol:
I was just saying that there's no need to be self-depreciating on this one. It's good work and it's here to be seen, shown off and used! So kudos to you!
Mr Cory
2007-03-20, 09:27 PM
Lmao o dang... What a shame...
All good cheers
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