Gas and Rain Leader System Connectors

[thoellering]

I'm in the process of checking out Revit MEP. While answering an architects question as to why one does not want to mirror plumbing fixtures (due to the connectors), I noticed that there are no Connectors for Gas Piping and or Rain Leader Piping. I suppose that is what the "Other" is for? Can we create our own connectors...?

Thomas

[awascher]

Since no one has answered this question, I'll pose the questions again.

Does Revit MEP assume that storm drainage is treated as a sanitary system?

Are gas and fuel oil piping options in the works?

[jpuck91372100]

Can't say I'm the most experienced with this yet... but I haven't seen anything where Revit MEP has different criteria for engineering rainleaders/storm drainage at all, or gas piping. I brought that up (among a list of other things) to our instructor at a training course put on by our local reseller, should probably post those items on here somewhere too.

[kyle.bernhardt]

You cannot currently create your own System Types. I suggest that you just create an "Other" system and then name the System accordingly. You can use View Filters based upon the System Name and still achieve proper visibility control.

Does that work for you or are their problems with that solution?

Cheers,
Kyle B

[Liamnacuac]

Being a virgin MEP user, I am trying to setup the Gas system to use pressure for sizing the piping and connectors. since I have to use the "Other" system option, is it possible to set sizing from GPM to CFH? Should I wait a couple more weeks for 2009?

[kyle.bernhardt]

Being a virgin MEP user, I am trying to setup the Gas system to use pressure for sizing the piping and connectors. since I have to use the "Other" system option, is it possible to set sizing from GPM to CFH? Should I wait a couple more weeks for 2009?

Your avatar is gorgeous.

Unfortunately there's no way to do this in Revit today, nor will there be a way in 2009. This is on our radar screen.


Cheers,
Kyle B

[Steve_Stafford]

Can't contradict Kyle on the connector bit...he should know.

When reporting the data in a schedule though you can alter the unit of measure as shown in the attached image. So when you look at the contents of a family's properties dialog you'd have to mentally think in terms of Flow according to CFH. The value you enter should be a relevant for that unit of measure. So might be able to "pretend" you are working with CFH instead? I guess it depends on how and where you want to display the value?

[kyle.bernhardt]

If just calculating flows is the goal, then you can do that as Steve points out. The requirement as I read it was to use the gas flow in our sizing calculations, which is not possible.

Our sizing calculations do not account for gases moving through pipes, or System Pressure being the sizing variable. We can size pipe based upon pressure drop in a liquid system, but that's not what I think Liamnacuac wants to do.

Cheers,
Kyle B

[Steve_Stafford]

10-4...same page then. Doing what I suggest is still "playing with numbers" because the flow value entered (GPM) in the component will be "factored" to display the equivalent CFH. So my info probably doesn't help much... Just get the "gassy" stuff on the table Mr. Cowbell :smile:

[Liamnacuac]

Yup, you're right, I have other means for doing that.



If just calculating flows is the goal, then you can do that as Steve points out. The requirement as I read it was to use the gas flow in our sizing calculations, which is not possible.

Our sizing calculations do not account for gases moving through pipes, or System Pressure being the sizing variable. We can size pipe based upon pressure drop in a liquid system, but that's not what I think Liamnacuac wants to do.

Cheers,
Kyle B

[Liamnacuac]

Your avatar is gorgeous.


Cheers,
Kyle B



....And my Dumb little sister said I wasn't very "photogenic" !! Ha!

[cwade]

Ok, how do I get a gas water heater? Gas range? Etc.

Really, there seems to be nothing with Gas built into Revit. Gas out here is the standard, we rarely, if ever, use an electric hot water heater, they are not efficient. If I am reading this thread correctly this is not possible without using a work around?

[DuckMan]

Ok, how do I get a gas water heater? Gas range? Etc.

Really, there seems to be nothing with Gas built into Revit. Gas out here is the standard, we rarely, if ever, use an electric hot water heater, they are not efficient. If I am reading this thread correctly this is not possible without using a work around?

I would trust Revit to size pipe about as much as I'd trust Charles Manson in a room alone with a knife and blonde actress.

From what I've seen with the water sizing, it has a looooong way to go before it's useful for anything more than a house. I think they should concentrate on getting what they have now to work before they add anything new to the mix.