#$&%! - why can't Autodesk at least provide at least the BASIC REVIT family in MEP?

[wboyanton]

geeze how about something as rare as a wall mounted thermostat?
The more I use REVIT the more I'm conviced AutoCAD is screwing all of us that purchased this software, it is no where near a finished usable product. Yet we foolishly and blindly follow them....

This is one un-productive peice of software. I'm about ready to send it back to Autodesk!

How long before we can do something a simple as placing a thermostat?
Oval duct?
etc. etc.
etc.

If we're just Autodesk's BETA testers why don't thy provide this software FREE
Would it be too much to ask for a written manual?

[Chad Smith]

Two things;

geeze how about something as rare as a wall mounted thermostat?
...
How long before we can do something a simple as placing a thermostat?

I can't speak for MEP, but in Architecture a lot of the Autodesk content is next to useless, and it is missing a lot of things. This is to be expected as Autodesk can't satisfy everyone and their family standards.
You're best to learn how to use the Family Editor and create your own. Something as simple as a thermostat shouldn't take long at all.

Would it be too much to ask for a written manual?

While the product doesn't come with them, you can order free books online here. I like that they don't ship with them for two reasons.
1. They can get the product out earlier and finish off the docs a little later.
2. We really don't need a book for every single license in the company. It's a waste of paper and would end up throwing most of them out. In my office I have 2 copies that sit at my desk for all users to borrow when they like.

[bcgatti]

Two things;

...While the product doesn't come with them, you can order free books online here....

Unfortunately there is nothing available for Revit 2010 (any flavor), 3dsMax Design 2010, Ecotect 2010, Navisworks 2010....all of the software packages that we use.

[Chad Smith]

No, not yet, but they will show up soon'ish. Refer to my point 1.

[RevitNinja]

Even in AutoCAD, symbols were used for thermostats. Maybe an arc or spline to designate the corresponding zone, but they were just annotations.

Why not do the same in Revit?

[mjdanowski]

It has always been my advice to new users to get familiar with the family editor and the way families are created and constrained. If you do this, you will find that working in a Revit project is a lot easier.

Even in AutoCAD, symbols were used for thermostats. Maybe an arc or spline to designate the corresponding zone, but they were just annotations.

Why not do the same in Revit?

You can do this!

Just create a generic annotation family of your thermostat and add it to the project.

[Beancud]

geeze how about something as rare as a wall mounted thermostat?
The more I use REVIT the more I'm conviced AutoCAD is screwing all of us that purchased this software, it is no where near a finished usable product. Yet we foolishly and blindly follow them....

This is one un-productive peice of software. I'm about ready to send it back to Autodesk!

How long before we can do something a simple as placing a thermostat?
Oval duct?
etc. etc.
etc.

If we're just Autodesk's BETA testers why don't thy provide this software FREE
Would it be too much to ask for a written manual?

well they did add some contents, all based on american market which looks totally strange.

If your a insert block - click click tracer, Revit MEP is not for you. You must learn to customize.

and Oval duct? which country use oval duct if I may ask.

[Michael.c]

and Oval duct? which country use oval duct if I may ask.

Australia
(isn't Queensland part of Australia, beancurd?)

[Beancud]

Australia
(isn't Queensland part of Australia, beancurd?)

Michael I have yet to see anyone use Oval duct in all the leading consultants in New Zealand and Australia.

It is human nature to 'rant and rave'. I admit to a degree of ranting and raving myself. It's no different to, say, shouting at the kids to hurry up and get ready for school!
Have you never shouted at anyone? It's called emotion, and I'm sure no-one here means anything malicious. I would have thought that if we are all restricted to "talking" placidly here then there is a danger that the message will not get accross!

If you shout at kids, chances are they grow up to become a shouting and raving adult, cutting their pocket money works better.

I think if you are in a consultantcy people expect your to find solutions, fix problems and be positive, if I was raving and shouting and played the blaming game I would have been sacked long time ago.

[Michael.c]

Michael I have yet to see anyone use Oval duct in all the leading consultants in New Zealand and Australia.




If you shout at kids, chances are they grow up to become a shouting and raving adult, cutting their pocket money works better.

I think if you are in a consultantcy people expect your to find solutions, fix problems and be positive, if I was raving and shouting and played the blaming game I would have been sacked long time ago.

1. Re the oval duct....it's not commonly used but it is required every now and then.
2. I don't see a problem with a bit of harmless venting of frustration with a product which is unarguably recognised, at the very least, as not being up to scratch
(....and I just noticed that you refer to yourself as "The angry revit monster")