How to place light fixtures with no ceiling

[notoriousdw]

Currently working on a hospital, we need to do a power/lighting demolition plan, however we don't have a reflected ceiling plan showing the existing conditions. is there a way to place ceiling fixtures without an rcp?

-Dave

[sjsl]

Ceiling elements, lights, diffusers, etc. can be placed w/o a ceiling. Look on the Options bar in v9 not sure where it is in v10

[nubrun.188780]

Currently working on a hospital, we need to do a power/lighting demolition plan, however we don't have a reflected ceiling plan showing the existing conditions. is there a way to place ceiling fixtures without an rcp?

-Dave

If the fixtures are face based you could create planes and host them to the planes... Some will even argue that with ceilings this is how it should be done.

I hope this helps.

[notoriousdw]

Ceiling elements, lights, diffusers, etc. can be placed w/o a ceiling. Look on the Options bar in v9 not sure where it is in v10

my options bar only has "place on verticle face", "place on face", "place on work plane", and the create in place & load buttons. I don't see on the options bar where I would select to place the fixture w/o a ceiling. Am I missing something?

[nubrun.188780]

my options bar only has "place on verticle face", "place on face", "place on work plane", and the create in place & load buttons. I don't see on the options bar where I would select to place the fixture w/o a ceiling. Am I missing something?

Just draw a reference plane to represent the ceiling and then host them to the "work plane". If a family is face based it needs to be hosted to something. You cannot just place them.

[cdatechguy]

We create a "no ceiling" ceiling type and then just hide the ceiling in the different views

[nubrun.188780]

We create a "no ceiling" ceiling type and then just hide the ceiling in the different views

Isn't that more tedious not to mention time consuming? As i understand it you must go through to each room and add a ceiling, which you will ultimately just turn off? To me it sound as if you are adding to the size of your model for no reason at all. Reference planes have little to no impact on your model, and you could draw all of the ceiling reference planes you could need in 1 minute... For example a ceiling at 9-0, 9-6, 10-0, etc depending on the projects ceiling heights.

Just some food for thought.

[notoriousdw]

I'm in my floor plan view and when I attempt to make a reference plane to use as you suggest it keeps giving me a verticle one, instead of a poane view plane. And I can't seem to find the setting to make the reference plane flat with my plan view

[nubrun.188780]

I'm in my floor plan view and when I attempt to make a reference plane to use as you suggest it keeps giving me a verticle one, instead of a poane view plane. And I can't seem to find the setting to make the reference plane flat with my plan view

You can use either an elevation view, or cut a section and place the plan horizontally in the section view. Also be sure to go to the plane's element properties and name it corresponding to it height. That way when you place the fixture, you can select the plan and then simply select the naem from the list.

[notoriousdw]

You can use either an elevation view, or cut a section and place the plan horizontally in the section view. Also be sure to go to the plane's element properties and name it corresponding to it height. That way when you place the fixture, you can select the plan and then simply select the naem from the list.

thanks I'll give that a try and see how it works out.