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    Default Custom Duct Fitting

    Anyone have any ideas on how to create the attached custom duct fitting?

    Any help is appreciated.

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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    There is always this idea:

    Hide the duct in red and use detail lines to show the custom duct, probably the easiest...
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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by ntopliffe View Post
    There is always this idea:

    Hide the duct in red and use detail lines to show the custom duct, probably the easiest...
    hmmm, on a cost basis from the duct shop, you'd think that radical of a reducing offset radius 90 such as that would not be cost effective and probably want to be avoided altogether unless you 100% absolutely cannot run the ductwork without using a transition such as that.
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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    We do the "hide stuff in view" method as well. I know it's not "BIM-ish", but we haven't been contracted to produce a BIM yet, just use Revit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrubert View Post
    We do the "hide stuff in view" method as well. I know it's not "BIM-ish", but we haven't been contracted to produce a BIM yet, just use Revit.
    Regardless of whether it is BIM, it simply isn't correct. That's like putting all your light fixtures on the floor and saying it's OK, since "we're not contracted to produce BIM." It looks fine on paper... I know that in this case it probably isn't a big deal, but it is a bad habit that you should avoid.

    Try a swept blend to create the fitting.

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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by stykface View Post
    100% absolutely cannot run the ductwork without using a transition such as that.
    Space is tight, gotta have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by cporter.207875 View Post
    Try a swept blend to create the fitting.
    I am still learning the family creation but I have tried the following:

    1. Use a single sweep blend to define the part. Sounds straight forward but I run into problems with a sweep path that is not planer nor a single element. The path must start at one elevation and end at another, and must be a straight segment followed by a spline segment and finally another straight segment.

    2. Use an oversized sweep blend then void the tops and bottoms with void sweep blends to get what I am looking for. This seems possible but highly time consuming and limited to a single element to define the path as defined in 1 above.

    In short, I've done modelling in Pro Engineer and Unigraphics and other part modeling software and the family creation feature of Revit, from my perspective is limited at best.

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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    after working on it a bit more I have the following.

    I used a single sweep blend, a single path, the second profile is simply elevated above the first.

    worked like a charm.

    Any ideas on making it completely customizable? generic to easily adapt to any geometric configuration??

    It never ends does it?

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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by ntopliffe View Post
    after working on it a bit more I have the following.

    I used a single sweep blend, a single path, the second profile is simply elevated above the first.

    worked like a charm.

    Any ideas on making it completely customizable? generic to easily adapt to any geometric configuration??

    It never ends does it?

    Neil
    You could add a load of instance parameters and manually change each instance in the project, as needed on a case by case basis. This would probably be the easiest, since you would only need to input duct offsets and duct size.
    Trying to get it to adjust itself automatically would be much more difficult.

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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    Lemme know what you think...

    According to your posted drawing - the top surface of the fitting is planer. So the path for the swept blend can go there.
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    Default Re: Custom Duct Fitting

    I believe this is called a "drop cheek" radius elbow. I also believe the correct spelling is "planar", even in America. Language of course is highly fluid, so who knows; like the weather in Denver, if you don't like it, just wait 5 minutes and it'll change.

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