Arch background & "draw order"

[RobertB]

The other thing to check is the view settings for the view used by the sheet. The view needs to be in Hidden Line mode not Wireframe.

[alan.jackson]

Sorry I am late to the party.

This issue is probably number one on my list of Revit issues because it is so vital to putting out a good quality product. Not only does this occur for PDF's but also for DWFs.

The problem with line merge is a problem with the feature in Revit for providing opaque regions around text boxes. If line merge is used it blends the opaque box to become transparent. Huge problem. See pics.

[alan.jackson]

There are so many topics on this too. here are a few. some go back a couple years. just search.

http://discussion.autodesk.com/forum...63515&#5863515
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.ph...ght=line+merge
http://forums.augi.com/showthread.ph...ght=line+merge

[RobertB]

The problem with line merge is a problem with the feature in Revit for providing opaque regions around text boxes. If line merge is used it blends the opaque box to become transparent. Huge problem. See pics.

Good point. So we are back to the root of the problem: there is no way to control what will print on top.

[sgermano]

Good point. So we are back to the root of the problem: there is no way to control what will print on top.

excatly... we have also found this a major issue that needs to be addressed. The quality of cd docs is one of the BIGGEST problems. The plans look very unproffesional at this point. We have searched and searched for a pdf driver that has line merge ooptions and none work right.

I hopw this is fixed soon.

[mwiggins]

Have you tried Nova PDF. Also, how about setting your view to coordination and then set the link to halftone? (just thinking out loud)

[alan.jackson]

Have you tried Nova PDF. Also, how about setting your view to coordination and then set the link to halftone? (just thinking out loud)

Have you tried this? We don't have Nova. I will try the halftone thing.


AUTODESK WHERE ARE YOU !!!


Another big job going out this week asking for PDF CD deliverable. They will look amateurish.

Hey at least the ribbons top notch.

[moliva]

sorry to restart this thread (although not THAT old). Just curious about printing best practices for the folks who have put out successful Revit projects. We have our issues w/ trying to get certain things to print a little darker or have different shading needs for the particular projects but can usually find a way to get results closer to what seem acceptable. My biggest gripe to date was the dotted grey lines of my linked model when printed vs. just using lineweights to determine plotting.

I was playing around w/ the settings and here's what I came up w/ based on previous responses and searching other threads and good ol' trial and trial and error.

VG > Revit Links > set each link to coarse view and set each link's discipline to Coordination.

then override every lineweight to "1" for both projection/surface and cut lines for each link. (I also turn off all patterns in walls, etc.) and I usually have all annotation categories turned off except grids for the linked models as well.

In the print menu > settings > I set it to blacklines and high quality. I didn't see much difference between Vector and Raster so I went w/ Vector since it says it's faster. (i think it looks better w/ this setup).

Can anyone see any issue besides the tedious setup of getting to this outcome, in printing this way? I don't want to go through all this and find out I can't get a certain type of wall or other architectural element to show up.

[alan.jackson]

Well there are two things going on here. The dithering you get from the grey/halftone backgrounds is a function of the printer you are using. The printer will dither black dots in order to give the appearance of grey, while other printers can in fact print grey.

I agree that the ONLY solution at this time is to use the "convert halftone to thin black line" setting so that you get the blending of layers like you want. It is the a situation where you have to determine the lesser of two evils.

[moliva]

that convert halftone to thin black line thingy is a 2010 feature no? I am stuck w/ 2009 for the time being.

speaking of the printer settings either printing grey or "dithered"...we usually make PDFs and then they are sent out for printing by the Architect. I'm not so sure we'd have better luck trying to find a different printer to make our prints, so using some sort of thin line seems the best way to have control...

I'm no expert on plotting or print settings or any of that so I could be way off. I'm just looking for a way to get the best output and this is all i've come up w/.