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    Default Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    Using Map 3D 2010, I have edited a shape file of water lines originally create using ESRI ArcInfo. I connected to it using "Data>Connect to Data" under Display Manager tab, then added features and added some attribute data in the table, then checked the features in.

    Two problems:

    1. ArcView 3.3 and 9.3 won't read the shapefile correctly - the new features don't show up graphically. I can see them in the table though. Perhaps ESRI products aren't suppose to be able to read AutoCAD shape files?

    2. I have a "LENGTH" field that I want to populate with the actual length of each feature. Is this possible?

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    Default Re: Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    I guess I have resolved my own problem.

    I opened a new drawing and used mapimport to bring in the shapefile, which brought in the line and created the properties.

    Then mapexport to re-create the shapefile. And ArcView will read it too!

    I would still be interested in hearing other solutions as well.


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    You can add a field by doing a calculation and getting the length of the 2d geometry. Add the round function unless you want to carry it out to 8 decimal places.
    Expression looks like this; Round ( Length2D ( Geometry ), 2 ) The last "2" is for the deimcal places.
    Once you do that you either need to save the layer to a new SDF file and then convert that to shp or bulk copy it to a new shape file. The calculations do not stay with the feature source you create it in.
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    Default Re: Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    Quote Originally Posted by dmingo View Post
    Using Map 3D 2010, I have edited a shape file of water lines originally create using ESRI ArcInfo. I connected to it using "Data>Connect to Data" under Display Manager tab, then added features and added some attribute data in the table, then checked the features in.

    Two problems:

    1. ArcView 3.3 and 9.3 won't read the shapefile correctly - the new features don't show up graphically. I can see them in the table though.
    I had to uninstall Map 2010 because shape file export did not work properly. In the past I had to reinstall the ESRI after the AutoDesk because of DLL problems. Like I mentioned, it probably is unique to certain computer setups. I will switch to 2010 when I need to upgrade my ESRI. post below.

    http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=99501

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    Default Re: Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    Thanks for the responses guys. Appreciate the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmingo View Post
    I have edited a shape file of water lines originally create using ESRI ArcInfo. I connected to it using "Data>Connect to Data" under Display Manager tab, then added features and added some attribute data in the table, then checked the features in.

    Two problems:

    1. ArcView 3.3 and 9.3 won't read the shapefile correctly - the new features don't show up graphically. I can see them in the table though. Perhaps ESRI products aren't suppose to be able to read AutoCAD shape files?
    Quote Originally Posted by dmingo View Post
    I guess I have resolved my own problem.

    I opened a new drawing and used mapimport to bring in the shapefile, which brought in the line and created the properties.

    Then mapexport to re-create the shapefile. And ArcView will read it too!
    Using FDO in Civil 3D 2011, I was having similar problems - whenever I created new features (lines only, points seemed to work okay) ArcMap 9 or ArcMap 10 could not see the features I created. It would show up in the object data table but it was not visible.

    I tried the solution that dmingo found and it worked!! Thank you dmingo!

    Now I am going to try that to see if that resolves another problem I am having when I grip edit the FDO attached shp files. I end up with double lines the next time the shp file is connected - one showing the new geometry after the grip edits, and another showing the original geometry prior to the grip edits. It doesn't happen all the time, but maybe I can completely eliminate the problem.

    Does anybody know what actually causes these types of issues when editing shp files through FDO? It's almost as if Map doesn't write to the shp file correctly when you check in the features.

    Or it could just be user error on my part???

    Thanks again dmingo!!

    Hugh
    Last edited by hbisco; 2011-03-08 at 07:31 PM. Reason: corrections

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    Default Re: Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    Glad it helped Hugh.

    As for the other issue you're having, I'm afraid I can't help you there. I have been having check out - check in problems for a while and have never gotten a resolution to the problem from AutoDesk.

    Guys like James Murphy (to mention only one) have been a great help to me - you can check out his blog - maybe drop him an email.

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    Check the Feature Edits option MAPFEATUREEDITOPTIONS command or from the Workspace named Tool-Base Ribbon and on the Feature Edit Tab see attach image.
    Those may need to be changed depending on your work flow. The help button on the dialog works to give you some explanation of the settings.
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    Default Re: Shape files and Arcview 3.3

    Thanks Murph. I'll give that a try. Much appreciated again.
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