Attribute position controlled by visibility state, possible?

[kdayman]

I am trying to find out if it is even possible, I want to have attributes move location according to the visibility state. Basically I want to create a dynamic title block with two visibility states, horizontal and vertical. I want the sheet information in attributes to display in the correct location for each visibility state. Can it be done? If it can and hints?

Thanks,

Kelly

[Chris.N]

do you use the Sheet Set Manager?

[RobertB]

You could combine position and visibility parameters in a lookup table and use the lookup table to drive toggling the block insertions.

[Chris.N]

That's true Robert, but that can be quite a lot of work depending on the number of attributes. The more attributes in the block, the more entries in the Lookup Table that need to be entered.

What I was going to suggest if Sheet Set Manager is in use would be a bit quicker in my mind.

Make one of the versions of the block with all the attributes having either a suffix or prefix hinting at what state they're for. (H: horizontal, V: vertical) Insert fields in the attributes that are linked to the SSM. Then COPY all the attributes over and replace the letter in the tag to match the other visibility state.

After that it's only a matter of coordinating what's on in which state.


While it's nice to "only" have what is necessary in the blocks, and have the ability to manipulate them as desired, I also have to ask sometimes if the high-level effort is worth the return.

[RobertB]

That's true Robert, but that can be quite a lot of work depending on the number of attributes. The more attributes in the block, the more entries in the Lookup Table that need to be entered.

What I was going to suggest if Sheet Set Manager is in use would be a bit quicker in my mind.

Make one of the versions of the block with all the attributes having either a suffix or prefix hinting at what state they're for. (H: horizontal, V: vertical) Insert fields in the attributes that are linked to the SSM. Then COPY all the attributes over and replace the letter in the tag to match the other visibility state.

Ugh. If I were to go with the SSM route, I would have two templates, one for each orientation. A single project should only be using one type of titleblock unless you are trying to include small format CA sketches in the SSM.

[Chris.N]

Ugh. If I were to go with the SSM route, I would have two templates, one for each orientation. A single project should only be using one type of titleblock unless you are trying to include small format CA sketches in the SSM.

I did that also AND with the same block. I had 1 block for about 6 sheet sizes, but in the Template I had, each state was in a separate layout. Sometimes the sheetsize would change during schematics and it was easier to modify the already created sheets. Once the template source settings (source layout) were updated then the new sheets would be the correct 'new' size too.

one block. one template. umpteen options.

[RobertB]

I did that also AND with the same block. I had 1 block for about 6 sheet sizes, but in the Template I had, each state was in a separate layout. Sometimes the sheetsize would change during schematics and it was easier to modify the already created sheets. Once the template source settings (source layout) were updated then the new sheets would be the correct 'new' size too.

one block. one template. umpteen options.

Must be nice to work at a place where you can use the same titleblock over and over. As an engieering consulting firm, we rarely get to use our own titleblock and rather need to used the architect's provided titleblock. <sigh>

Your approach of multiple layouts in the template is really what I was "seeing" in my head. Great job!