Aec8 Room Tag Not Aligned Correctly

[jaredk]

I am having an issue when I use the standard Room Tags. I create spaces in each room as usual and go to the Documents palette and add a room tag to the space. The tag appears but the room name is not centered above the room number--it is off to the left. If I open an old job, I can override the room tag from that drawing to the current one I am using and then the room tags appear correctly. Is anyone else having this problem? It has happened on multiple drawings.

Thanks for any help.

Edit: When someone else in our office using 2010 adds a space and room tag to the same drawing, the room name automatically is centered with the room number.

[dkoch]

I am a little confused, but then, that is normal.

Are you all using ACA 2010? Are you using the out-of-the-box tools/tags/content, or do you have custom content.

Are you the only one experiencing offset room names? Do you experience it in all files? If you start a brand new file from the template, and place a Space and tag it, is the room name offset? If others do the same, are they centered

Does everyone use the same template file and content (literally, from the same network location), or do you have copies of the template file and content on each local computer?

Tags are Multi-View Blocks. Multi-View Blocks get their graphics from AutoCAD blocks. Once the Multi-View Block and all referenced AutoCAD view blocks are defined in a file, further use of the tag tool will not cause result in the local versions being updated to those of the source file specified in the tag tool.

If a specific file has had the view block for the Room Tag altered to offset the attribute that displays the room name (or had the justification changed, etc), that change will persist when adding new tools. Redefining the view block to get the room name attribute correct will make future tags correct.

[jaredk]

I am a little confused, but then, that is normal.

Are you all using ACA 2010? Are you using the out-of-the-box tools/tags/content, or do you have custom content. I use ACA 2012. Everyone else in the office has 2010. I am using the default tags--I have not customized the tags.

Are you the only one experiencing offset room names? Do you experience it in all files? If you start a brand new file from the template, and place a Space and tag it, is the room name offset? If others do the same, are they centered? Yes, I am the only one having the problem. We have a standard template we use for all jobs. When I open the template and insert a space and a room tag, the name is offcenter. When someone else using 2010 opens the same template and does the same thing, the room tag is correct.

Does everyone use the same template file and content (literally, from the same network location), or do you have copies of the template file and content on each local computer? We have one standard template on our server and copy it to each new job so that we have an office-wide standard.

Tags are Multi-View Blocks. Multi-View Blocks get their graphics from AutoCAD blocks. Once the Multi-View Block and all referenced AutoCAD view blocks are defined in a file, further use of the tag tool will not cause result in the local versions being updated to those of the source file specified in the tag tool.

If a specific file has had the view block for the Room Tag altered to offset the attribute that displays the room name (or had the justification changed, etc), that change will persist when adding new tools. Redefining the view block to get the room name attribute correct will make future tags correct. I looked through our template and the room tag multi-view block is not in the template which means something is wrong with the block ACA uses on my computer. Where is the block that ACA 2012 references for the room tag? I had a few minutes on Friday and searched through my computer and found the details from the component manager and some other templates but couldn't find the room tag.

[dkoch]

I am not aware of anything in ACA 2012 that would cause different behavior than what would occur in ACA 2010. Both use the AutoCAD 2010 file format. ACA 2010 also uses the Aec8_Room_Tag Multi-View Block (MVB) for tagging Spaces.

See the attached image. Since content may not have been installed in the default location, as it was on my current computer, the best way to find where the source file for your tag is will be to right click the Tool palette tool you are using and choose Properties from the contextual menu. In the tool's properties, under the Basic category and Tag subcategory, you will find a Tag location property, which should give you the path and file name of the source file that holds the MVB definition that is imported when one does not already exist in the target file.

[jaredk]

I am not aware of anything in ACA 2012 that would cause different behavior than what would occur in ACA 2010. Both use the AutoCAD 2010 file format. ACA 2010 also uses the Aec8_Room_Tag Multi-View Block (MVB) for tagging Spaces.

See the attached image. Since content may not have been installed in the default location, as it was on my current computer, the best way to find where the source file for your tag is will be to right click the Tool palette tool you are using and choose Properties from the contextual menu. In the tool's properties, under the Basic category and Tag subcategory, you will find a Tag location property, which should give you the path and file name of the source file that holds the MVB definition that is imported when one does not already exist in the target file.

Thank you for the help. When I get to the office tomorrow I will for it.

[jaredk]

@dkoch - I got it fixed this morning. I had someone else in the office copy the drawing ACA references for the room tag block (Schedule Tables (Imperial).dwg) and replaced mine. It works like it is supposed to now. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.