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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    OK - so the rethinking goes around. We are looking at the immediate pros and cons:

    Hatch pattern - Pro:automatic - Con:full wall layer thickness so inconsistent thicknesses
    Rail - Con:duplicates work by having to add another element to keep up with - Pro:thickness is consistent

    Jury is still out but the thought is possibly going with the rail for one more reason - it can carry on outside of the walls such as through the corner columns we are dealing with and it has the same pattern continuing at the same width.

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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    I don't like to the idea of adding railings to the model if they are not really railings. If not filters, why not use a line based detail component, then?

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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    I don't like to the idea of adding railings to the model if they are not really railings. If not filters, why not use a line based detail component, then?
    I was trying to avoid a view specific drafting solution since it's a graphic we want to see in all our plans at all scales. I'm just trying to avoid the management. What don't you like about the railing?

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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    Quote Originally Posted by kmarquis View Post
    ...What don't you like about the railing?
    Because it is a railing. Have you considered a line based model family?

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    I did something like that which was the original purpose of my post to see what the forum thought about it. I posted the family to this thread. It's got some issues which I described earlier. I'm not sure if it was the right execution. Maybe you could read the explanation I had about the family and play around with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    Because it is a railing. Have you considered a line based model family?
    For one - I have a boss that HATES the thick lines with rounded points. The rail family ends cleanly.
    Another - line has to be drawn - rail has to be drawn - both have to be aligned and relationship maintained.
    Lesser of the two evils - rails are cleaner in their look.

    Best -Will Revit ever listen and FIX THIS!!!

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    I don't really see the problem with using railings. Have you read Mastering Revit Architecture? They have a whole section in there on ways to use railings creatively...Parking lot light posts, Bollards...

    One of the reasons I think Revit works well for me is because there are so many different ways to problem solve. One time I considered making countertops out of floors and making sinks floor hosted so they would cut the sink hole I didn't do that since it's a little crazy but utimetly we're putting out a set of drawings. Yes...there are schedules and construction managers that will possibly get the file but do what works for you, as long as it's clean and simple and is an elegant solution that doesn't make people jump through hoops as a workaround. No one schedules railings anyway.

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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    Well, some people do egress paths with railings, too... I would do a line based family. As you say, there are many ways to solve a problem. All these are workarounds anyway. The best thing would be to have a tool especially designed for these purposes in future releases.

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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    I really like this idea of railings, and thank you for sharing! Who all has been using this? Any downfalls to this approach?

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Fire Rated Plan Graphic

    I've played around with it and it seems pretty cool. I noticed than when you do a detail callout as opposed to a Floor Plan callout that the railing doesn't show up in the detail callout. That's something that I needed to see. Other than that I like it.

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