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    Hi everyone,

    Can anyone tell me exactly what the use of the check supports button is? It seems fairly self explanatory, and I can see how it's meant to work, but in practise it seems next to useless, unless I'm missing something.

    I have a steelwork frame, which I'm planning on exporting to analysis software soon but, since we are unsure exactly what foundation solution we are going for, the columns are unsupported at this point. I also have one cantilever beam which is obviously unsupported on one end. Clicking the check supports button, I get warnings for each of the columns (58 of them) and 1 warning for the beam. Great, exactly how I'd think it should work. Unfortunately, it seems to be a 1 shot deal. Clicking check supports button again does nothing, as they have apparently all been checked, despite the fact all these problems are still present in my model. This is fine in my current project, I know exactly what's wrong and how to fix them, but in a more complicated project, where a few errors may have occured during modelling, I can't see this being much use. Unless I actually write down each warning that appears, there doesn't seem to be any way of keeping track of what warnings I've been informed of. Even clicking off the warning list, to say rotate the view, hides the warning dialogue box and it won't come back unless I undo the initial check.

    Is there a way of resetting Revit's memory of previous checks? So I could fix the first issue or two I recieve, reset the checking memory, rerun the check, fix the next few, repeat.... At the moment, this one check only approach in next to useless as far as I can see.

    Thanks,

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    Default Re: Check supports button-Reset checked members

    What program are you sending the model to?
    You may also want to see if you have any modeling warnings/errors and fix as many as you can before you run the check.
    But I'll tend to agree with you, there's alot of things in RS that seem next to useless. The text editor is one of them.
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    Default Re: Check supports button-Reset checked members

    I'll be sending it to CSC Fastrak. But the actual program I'm sending it to is largely irrelevant, it's the one time only nature of the check which is bothering me.

    And yes I agree, the text editor is pretty poor. In fact, was coming to end of writting the post when someone in my team (new to Revit) came up and asked how we produce note drawings. I've just shown him, including the joys of JumpyText (The resizing and formating of your text dependent on how zoomed in/out you were when editing the text. How is this still present in the program?), and his immediate responce was "Can I create it in AutoCAD and link the file into the sheet instead?". If you have a tool that is so poor someone would rather open another program, you have a tool that isn't doing it's job.

    I wish AutoDesk would spend one version/edition on sorting out some of the fundemental issues which are regularily complained about, and regularily top the wishlist, rather than just attempting to add 'shiny' new features. But I suppose the advertising campaign "Revit 2014, now with useable features!", wouldn't really be that inspiring.

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    I was a part of their "Comunispace" discussion board this last year. Every week they'd ask another question about "The Cloud". My response was "Fix the broken stuff before you add new features that don't do the thing they were meant to do"
    Reminds me of the "Sony" commercial from "The Onion News"
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    Default Re: Check supports button-Reset checked members

    Have you tried the Review Warnings dialog? This can be found on the Manage tab > Inquiry panel. These warnings are persistent in the document until they are addressed. You can also select the appropreate analytical model element and you will see the Show Related Warnings button on the Contextual tab.

    I hope this helps.
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