Revit Keynoting - Numbering System

[ariellec]

I have 5 years experience and a strong understanding of Revit’s Keynoting tool. I am now at a new firm and assisting them with implementing keynoting. Currently they are using generic annotations / note blocks to apply sheet/keyed notes.

In my past experience, I have used the “By Keynote” numbering method, with the first character relating to the spec section, and the second being the unique identifier, which is random, based on the order in which they were created.
“Instruction” notes such as, “Align” would fall under Division 1 – notes numbered 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and so on.
Demolition notes would fall under Division 2. To me, this system makes a lot of sense as there is a logical grouping of elements, one numbering system can be used throughout the entire project, yet it is simpler than using a system based on the entire CSI Masterformat, such as the sample file included with Revit. Below is a shortened version of what a typical keynote txt file under this system would look like.

My question is – what other keynote numbering/grouping systems are people using out there? Any thoughts on tweaking the method I’ve described? I have heard of firms grouping their keynotes by Floor Plans, Reflected Ceiling Plans, Elevations, etc. What I do not like about a system such as that is what happens when you want to keynote the same element on a floor plan, as well as an elevation or section. I would prefer to stick with the By Keynote numbering system, as opposed to “By Sheet,” but am open to all suggestions.


D1 EXISTING TO REMAIN. 2
D2 REMOVE WALL AS REQUIRED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION 2
D3 REMOVE PLUMBING FIXTURES COMPLETE. SEE PLUMBING DWGS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 2
D4 REMOVE CONCRETE TIERED FLOOR COMPLETE AND EXCAVATE. 2

3.1 CONCRETE FOOTING. SEE STRUCT. DWG'S 3
3.2 CONCRETE SLAB-ON-GRADE. SEE STRUCT' DWG'S 3
3.3 WATERSTOP 3
3.4 PRE-CAST COPING 3
3.5 COMPOSITE CONCRETE DECK. SEE STRUCT' DWG'S 3
3.6 PRECAST CONCRETE LINTEL 3
3.7 PRECAST CONCRETE SILL 3
3.8 C.I.P. CONCRETE BASE 3
3.9 CONCRETE PLATFORM, FINISH AS SCHEDULED 3
3.10 CONCRETE ELEVATOR SUMP PIT 3

4.1 BRICK CAVITY WALL, NORMAN BRICK 4
4.2 BRICK CAVITY WALL, STANDARD BRICK 4
4.3 GROUND FACE CMU VENEER 4
4.4 GROUND FACE CMU SILL 4
4.5 MASONRY EXPANSION JOINT 4
4.6 THIN BRICK VENEER 4
4.7 REINFORCED CMU BEARING WALL. SEE STRUCT. DWG'S 4
4.8 CAVITY DRAINAGE MESH 4
4.9 WEEP HOLE 4
4.10 GROUT 4

5.1 STRUCTURAL STEEL. SEE STRUCT. DWG'S 5
5.2 GLASS AND STAINLESS STEEL GUARDRAIL ASSEMBLY WITH STAINLESS STEEL HANDRAIL 5
5.3 GALV. STEEL SHELF ANGLE. SEE STRUCT. DWG'S 5
5.4 WALL MOUNTED ROOF ACCESS LADDER 5
5.5 ELEVATOR PIT ACCESS LADDER 5
5.6 GALV. PRECAST CONCRETE ANCHOR BY PRECAST MFR. 5
5.7 COLD FORMED METAL FRAMING 5
5.8 CONC. FILLED METAL PAN STAIR 5
5.9 BLOCKING AS REQUIRED 5
5.10 METAL DECK 5

6.1 5/8" PLYWOOD SHEATHING 6
6.2 GLASS AND CONCRETE COUNTERTOP (SS-1) 6
6.3 WOOD VENEER MILLWORK, SEE ELEVATIONS 6
6.4 WOOD VENEER MILLWORK DOOR (WD-1) 6
6.5 PLASTIC LAMINATE MILLWORK 6
6.6 SOLID WOOD BASE TO MATCH ADJACENT PANEL 6
6.7 WOOD VENEER MILLWORK (WD-1) 6
6.8 WOOD VENEER MILLWORK (WD-2) 6
6.9 CABINET FOR RECYCLING RECEPTACLES 6
6.10 QUARTZ-BASED STONE COUNTERTOP (SS-2) 6
6.11 WOOD BLOCKING 6

7.1 MODIFIED BITUMINOUS MEMBRANE GREEN ROOFING SYSTEM 7
7.2 MODIFIED BITUMINOUS MEMBRANE ROOFING WITH BALLAST 7
7.3 8" x 10" THROUGH-WALL SCUPPER 7
7.4 PREFINISHED ALUMINUM COPING 7
7.5 FIBERGLASS-FACED GYPSUM COVER BOARD 7
7.6 TAPERED RIGID INSULATION 7
7.7 PREFINISHED METAL SOFFIT 7
7.8 STANDING SEAM ZINC ROOFING 7
7.9 ALUM. COMPOSITE MATERIAL PANEL 7
7.10 SOFT JOINT AT RELIEVING ANGLE 7

8.1 7-1/2" ALUM. CURTAIN WALL w/ 1" INSULATED GLAZING 8
8.2 4-1/2" ALUM. STOREFRONT w/ 1" INSULATED GLAZING 8
8.3 CURTAIN WALL LIGHT MONITOR 8
8.4 MIRROR 8
8.5 INTERIOR ALUMINUM STOREFRONT 8
8.6 INSULATED SPANDREL GLAZING 8
8.7 INSULATED VISION GLAZING 8
8.8 1/2" CLEAR TEMPERED GLASS SMOKESTOP W/ CLEAR SEALANT AT JOINTS 8
8.9 PREFINISHED ALUMINUM LOUVER 8
8.10 OPERABLE WINDOW 8

9.1 NON-LOAD-BEARING STEEL STUD FRAMING 9
9.2 5/8" TYPE X GYPUSM WALLBOARD 9
9.3 GYPUSM SHAFT LINER PANEL 9
9.4 5/8" GYPSUM WALL BOARD 9
9.5 PAINTED WALL AS SCHEDULED 9
9.6 BASE AS SCHEDULED 9
9.7 PORCELAIN TILE (T-1) 9
9.8 PORCELAIN TILE (T-2) 9
9.9 PORCELAIN WALL TILE (CTW-1) 9
9.10 CEILING AS SCHEDULED 9

10.1 MARKERBOARD 10
10.2 TACKBOARD (TB-1) 10
10.3 STAINLESS STEEL TOILET PARTITION 10
10.4 OVERHEAD MOTORIZED OPERABLE PARTITION 10
10.5 MFR. STD ALUMINUM MARKER TRAY 10
10.6 SEMI-RECESSED FIRE EXTINGUISHER CABINET 10
10.7 TOILET TISSUE ROLL DISPENSER 10
10.8 SURFACE MOUNTED SEAT COVER DISPENSER 10
10.9 SURFACE MOUNTED SANITARY NAPKIN DISPOSAL UNIT 10
10.10 MFR. STD ALUMINUM TRIM 10

11.1 REFRIGERATOR, BY OWNER 11
11.2 VENDING MACHINE (NIC) 11
11.3 PROJECTION SCREEN. SEE TECH. DWGS 11
11.4 FLUID APPLIED PROJECTION SCREEN. SEE TECH. DWGS. PROVIDE LEVEL 5 GWB FINISH IN THESE LOCATIONS 11

12.1 FLOOR GRILLE 12
12.2 MOTORIZED ROLLER SHADE RS-1 12
12.3 MANUAL ROLLER SHADE RS-2 12
12.4 GWB ROLLER SHADE POCKET, SLOPE BOTTOM WITH WINDOW HEAD 12

14.2 ELEVATOR DOOR/FRAME ASSEMBLY 14

21.1 SPRINKLER HEADS AT SMOKE STOP, SEE FIRE PROTECTION DRAWINGS 21

22.1 ROOF DRAIN, TYP. SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22
22.2 TRENCH DRAIN 22
22.3 PLUMBING FIXTURE. SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22
22.4 ELECTRIC WATER COOLER. SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22
22.5 ALUMINUM GUTTER 22
22.6 CLAMPING RING 22
22.7 SINK AS SCHEDULED, SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22
22.8 RAIN LEADER, SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22
22.9 SUMP PUMP, SEE PLUMBING DWGS 22

23.1 ROOFTOP MECH. EQUIPMENT - SEE MECHANICAL DWGS 23
23.2 CONTINUOUS FLOOR BAR GRILLE ON 2ND FLOOR ONLY. SEE MECHANICAL DWGS 23
23.3 MECHANICAL DUCT, SEE MECHANICAL DWGS 23
23.4 LINEAR SUPPLY SLOT, SEE MECHANICAL DWGS 23

26.1 LIGHT FIXTURE AS SCHEDULED. SEE ELEC. DWGS 26
26.2 STEP LIGHT FIXTURE. SEE ELEC DWGS 26
26.3 WALL RECEPTACLE. SEE ELEC DWGS 26

27.1 MONITOR. SEE TECH. DWGS 27
27.2 CAMERA. SEE TECH. DWGS 27
27.3 SPEAKER. SEE TECH . DWGS 27
27.4 CEILING MOUNTED PROJECTOR. SEE TECH. DWGS 27
27.5 ELECTRONIC WHITEBOARD. SEE TECH. DWGS 27
27.6 RECESSED PROJECTOR MOUNTED ON ELECTRONI LIFT. SEE TECH. DWGS 27
27.7 EQUIPMENT RACK, SEE TECH. DRAWINGS 27
27.8 INTERCOM, CENTER IN ZINC PANEL 27

28.1 KEY BOX 28
28.2 FACP, SEE FIRE PROTECTION 28
28.3 CARD READER 28

31.1 GRADE VARIES 31

[david_peterson]

I've actually gone with letter and number designators since a lot of my note describe systems.
BW1 - 18" thick basement wall reinforced with #6@12"oc each way each face
FNDW1 - 18" thick foundation steam well reinf........
SW1 - 12" thick shear wall reinf.......
SCS1 - structural composite slab - 2"-20ga galv comp steel deck with 4 1/2" nw conc topping (6 1/2" total thickness) reinf w/ 6x6-W2.1xW2.1 WWR
EPAD1 - 3 1/2" equipment pad - see 5/s-501 for detail.
IPAD1 - 12" thick isolated equipment pad - see 6/s-501
sog1 - 6" thick slab on grade reinf w/ xxxxxxx - see x/xxx
So I kind of went with a what you call it method for labeling keynotes.
Not sure it's the best way, but I'm not going with full specs number. All keynotes are user based and not tied (currently) to any family.

[mthurnauer]

I like your system. The only comment I have is that I try to use Type Mark tags whenever possible. For example, you use keynotes for your bathroom equipment, but for that, I would use an equipment tag and then create a bathroom accessory schedule that would list the items, mfr, model, comments, etc. The same is true for other items such as tackboards, markerboards, etc. I like the added functionality of having type marks and schedules where applicable. Another item where this has been useful is for window roller shades, blinds, and drapes.

[Valkin]

My firm tends to follow the NCS keynote number is the full specification number pluse it's modifier(08 7000.A). These notes are basically Reference or material notes, and do not describe how to do anything such as "align". For descriptive note we use NCS's sheet keynotes which are numbered 1,2,3 etc. For the sheet keynotes we have developed three ways of doing this the first is to have a separate note block that can be scheduled. I've described this in my blog check it out. http://revittize.blogspot.com/2008/0...revistied.html

The second is putting all descriptive keynotes in specification sections that are in division 1 such as demolition.
The third is something my firm is currently testing where the discriptive notes are still with in the keynote file and numbered 1,2,3 but the keynote legend is filtered to seperate the sheet keynotes from the referance keynotes