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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    One of the main improvements that needs to be made to keynotes is the default behaviour of leaders.

    1. Leaders always default to left aligned. You need to manually drag them to the right using the end grip.
    2. Leaders always default to "no arrow". You always need to add the arrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by msmith.tsap
    >>>Other question is how do you get leaders to change ends. Leader is on left side and sometimes needs to be on right (obviously). When I try to drag mid-grip it drops to origin at lower right away from text. Is there a "hand" on this text similar to standard text blocking.
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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    To clarify beegee's post for those who might be thinking "I have to add ALL the arrows to leaders?" No, just change the properties once for leaders, and they will all switch to the Arrow. (or Dot, or Box, or Tick, or.....)

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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    Yes, however, every time you create a new keynote, within a keynote family ( edit > duplicate ), you will have to select "add a leader", it doesn't default to that.

    Also, each time you start a new keynote family, it defaults to "no arrow".

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Davis
    To clarify beegee's post for those who might be thinking "I have to add ALL the arrows to leaders?" No, just change the properties once for leaders, and they will all switch to the Arrow. (or Dot, or Box, or Tick, or.....)

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    Question Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    Had all of my keynotes set up to go in 6.1. Working great!! Upgraded to 7.0 and now am having problems ! When loading file Condoc file as described under tutorial only part of my listing loads. What's up? Any help? Is this new to 7.0 or have I missed something? Should I break them down into Divisions due to size of list?

    Thanks for any help, guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmith.tsap
    Had all of my keynotes set up to go in 6.1. Working great!! Upgraded to 7.0 and now am having problems ! When loading file Condoc file as described under tutorial only part of my listing loads.Thanks for any help, guys!
    Just to be completely clear, did you modify the Condoc.Txt file with NEW keynotes? And this modified file was working under 6.1, but now not 7.0? Or are you speaking of the original Condoc.Txt file that had a incomplete list to begin with?

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    Question Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    This was an expansion of the keynote file you had started. File had been just competed before upgrading to 7.0. Had experimented with it some and seemed to be working fine. Large file but loaded okay. Seemed to add about 3meg to revit file when loaded. Notes for all 16 Divisions. Then when tried to load in 7.0 began having problems. Would not load complete file. Only would load thru Division 3.

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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    Thats a lot of memory to chew up. You must have spent a lot of time on this. Might want to break it into 16 divisions (create 16 keynote types) and see if that helps -

    Factory any word or known limitations on note file size?
    Last edited by SkiSouth; 2005-04-05 at 01:51 AM.

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    Have tried breaking into 16 Divisions at that seems to help. A few problems with the file being truncated when loaded. Thinking there are some size limitations that are affecting it. Any help from Revit you think?

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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    Email Tech support. They should give you an answer.

    Have you tried partial loading? You know, don't load the entire division notes, just the ones you anticipate needing (you can always reload -like adding structural beam members). It is not recommended to load ALL of the notes (even as Revit warns).- even though the tutorial says to ignore the warning.

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    Default Re: Using Keynotes with Condoc Example

    Ski,

    Follow-up question from some time ago. I have used your tutorial to create keynotes for materials. Works great. However all leaders are oriented to left of text (default). When I try to drag to right side the origin of leader shifts to what appears to be origin of text block which is at lower right of text block. Thought it was my error in setting up keynote but went back to your original and has same problem. How do I resolve? Should text block origin be at center of block (or left)? Seems to be main issue of leader movement.

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