Stairs - mid-landing riser?

[jessica.146534]

Does anyone know how to make a mid-landing riser in the new stair tool? I'm using 2014 and have tried making 2 landings next to each other and drawing a single riser but Revit doesn't like either one of those and I'm not sure what else to try. Any suggestions?

[PijPiwo]

Is this what you’re looking for?
Not a perfect solution, sometimes you might get funny landing condition depending on stair construction. Nevertheless, I hope it will suit your needs.
Draw stair (component) with two risers between landings. Pick this two-riser run and in Properties under Construction have only one item checked (either Begin with Riser or End with Riser, not both). You might need to adjust / stretch the upper or lower run (blue dot) to have overall desired number of risers. Line tool might be necessary in plan view as well.

[jessica.146534]

Not exactly. The stair is a switchback and I need the riser in the middle of the landing - see the attached image.

[damon.sidel]

I couldn't get it to work in Revit, either. Is it even allowable by code?

[PijPiwo]

Yeah, this is as close as I could get with component. I think you need to use stair by sketch in this case.

[jessica.146534]

There is nothing I can find in the IBC that says you can't use a mid-landing riser but this is for an existing building and the stair is already there. Right now I'm fudging it by modeling the stair with 1 less riser than required (basically omitting the mid-landing riser) and then drawing a model line on the landing, but it doesn't display correctly in section which is a problem. I really don't want to have to sketch the stair with lines but I'm not sure how else to get this to work.

Thanks for you help, it looks like the stair tool could use a little more tweaking.

[damon.sidel]

You could create two stairs: one that goes from the first floor to the mid-landing riser, then next that starts there and goes up to the second floor. That seems like it would work, especially if this is a unique condition.

[PijPiwo]

Right now I'm fudging it by modeling the stair with 1 less riser than required (basically omitting the mid-landing riser) and then drawing a model line on the landing, but it doesn't display correctly in section which is a problem. I really don't want to have to sketch the stair with lines but I'm not sure how else to get this to work.

What’s wrong with sketching the stair? I would rather do that than fudging it. Stair by sketch is not really that much more work (if any) comparing to component, and it shows correctly in section.
…just my 2 cents.

[Mike L Sealander]

You could always make it out of two stairs, with the top landing of the first stair one riser height lower than the bottom landing of the second stair.

[jessica.146534]

Drawing 2 stairs seems to be the only way to do this. It's not pretty since it's a metal pan stair (a monolithic concrete one would look better) but at least it's a workaround. Thanks!