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    Lightbulb BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    This is a documentation format that we have been using in the Pacific Northwest to help document critical information related to a Revit project's setup and collaboration. This FAQ was discussed in the August 2013 AUGIWorld issue. Many companies along the West Coast of the USA have embraced this FAQ or a modified version of it for their own use.

    The advantage to this FAQ compared to a BIM Execution Plan (BxP) is that the FAQ concisely addresses specific issues related to Revit project setup whereas the BxP is usually too general in nature.

    If you have suggestions for the FAQ please share them here and I will continue to update the FAQ for everyone.

    P.S. Yes, you may reformat the document so that it doesn't have the Sparling letterhead on it.

    Updated the FAQ to the 2014-10-09 version.
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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    Thanks, this document has a lot of good information!

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    Robert,

    Thank you for sharing! This is a great kick-off document. It is more specific that what I had been using and it addresses specific issues affecting MEP users that the architects may not always be aware of.

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    Good work Robert,
    The only thing I would add is a bit more about coordination - the when and how much is to be done.
    We have found that it is the level of coordination that is what costs the most for us. Without coordination Revit modelling doesn't cost more than AutoCAD for someone with experience.
    We are asked to model and coordinate to a certain level and then the architects still change their design after this. If we allowed for these changes in our bid price we would never win the job, so we have found it necessay to have the fight at the begining of a project and tell the architect that we wont coordinate items until they have finished design that will affect those items. Architects don't like it and don't always agree, but without this we have lost money on almost every job.

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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    Thanks, this document has a lot of good information!

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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    I seem to be having trouble accessing the file - just takes me to my Profile page. Anyone else seeing this?

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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by dan.j.weigand589053 View Post
    I seem to be having trouble accessing the file - just takes me to my Profile page. Anyone else seeing this?
    Hmm, it downloads just find for me. I'm using Chrome, if that matters. I have AUGI and forums.augi.com added to my safe site list, maybe it's a security setting blocking you from downloading? Just a thought.
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    Thanks Robert, Good help to the Revit community..
    In our office normal procedure is that We(Electrical) will model the Electrical as per our calcs. and then Architects link the Electrical central model then copy monitor each elements, Architects coordinates each devices (Lighting, Fire Alarm, WiFi, Speakers, Fire Fighting sprinklers, Diffusers, ceiling access point etc..) on the ceiling then Architects inform us as your elements are slightly moved (if really reqd.). We will have coordinated ceiling views in our (Electrical)central model file Project browser we will check /confirm that if there are any movements in the ceiling for Electrical elements if there is any we will relocate as per the Architecture layout.
    In some instance DD (Design Development Stage) or fast track project we normally may not have the ceiling info in model. and Architects may not get time to model it. Then we will host our ceiling Elements in a reference plane. When Architects model the Ceiling we will Align and loack the Reference plane into the Ceiling

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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertB View Post
    This is a documentation format that we have been using in the Pacific Northwest to help document critical information related to a Revit project's setup and collaboration. This FAQ was discussed in the August 2013 AUGIWorld issue. Many companies along the West Coast of the USA have embraced this FAQ or a modified version of it for their own use.

    The advantage to this FAQ compared to a BIM Execution Plan (BxP) is that the FAQ concisely addresses specific issues related to Revit project setup whereas the BxP is usually too general in nature.

    If you have suggestions for the FAQ please share them here and I will continue to update the FAQ for everyone.

    P.S. Yes, you may reformat the document so that it doesn't have the Sparling letterhead on it.
    That's a GREAT checklist, Bob, thanks for posting.

    The one thing that I see missing from #49 and #50... where's the Technical Rep for the Owner?
    Obviously, if the project is using BIM, but, the owner's Standards & Specifications and Contract don't require it, that's not necessary, but, if their Specs DO require it, they need to be included early on. Why debate project coordinates on the team, if the owner has some set up that they need you to use?

    (and, yes, I specify technical rep, because, while the PM and others might appreciate the cost savings due to reduced RFI's during design and construction, they often-times have no idea what the CAD Manager/Engineers/skilled maintenance personnel will be using the models for afterward, just as they had no clue what we did with the CAD files and equipment data once they turned them over to us.)
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    Default Re: BIM Kickoff Meeting FAQ/Revit Project Kickoff FAQ

    This is very helpful. WE are just getting into Revit as clients are requiring it. this will help to ensure no holes are left unfilled.

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