Visibility Settings and Level of Detail- is something missing?

[robinhillrhca700396]

I want to make an element in a family (in this case a sweep), visible in elevation 'Front/Back' at all Levels of Detail, Coarse, Medium and Fine when loaded into a project.
I also want it visible in plan at Fine, but invisible at Coarse and Medium.

Using visibility settings it seems impossible to set this combination on a single setting.

I used to think that Revit stored settings for LOD dependent upon the combination of check boxes selected for plan, Front/Back etc., and store different visibility settings for different combinations, but it seems that only the last LOD settings are stored irrespective of the combination of selected check boxes. Is this an issue of which order the LOD settings are made for each view, or is it just not possible? Or am I missing something obvious here?

It seems to be entirely reasonable to want to display an element at a certain LOD in some views but not others, but I can't see how. Is it really just one visibility setting per element?

Can anyone clarify how this does actually work, and how I can acheive my objective?

Thanks

Robin

[Dimitri Harvalias]

Coarse, medium and fine settings are an 'all or nothing, thing and do not change based on view orientation.
I'd suggest that you can turn the sweep geometry off for all levels in plan and add symbolic lines visible only in Fine. That should give you the control you are looking for.

[robinhillrhca700396]

'all or nothing'..not what I wanted to hear.
But thanks for the info Dimitri...I spend more time trying to do what I think Revit should do easily than on the design these days!
I've succesfully redone the family armed with that knowledge, but it now includes many more elements than would have been needed otherwise.

[irneb]

That's true, and tends to be something people bump their heads on time and again. At least until you start "thinking" in the way you need to draw for Revit.

The normal rule of thumb for me would be to create the orthogonal views entirely as symbolic lines / regions / detail components (or at least as much as possible). Get them to work properly with all visibility settings and parameters. Then start modelling using those linework as guides - all model elements (unless they're extremely simplistic) hidden in all orthogonal views. Note that such symbolic lines can act like reference planes / ref lines, so you tend to save on having to draw those (especially where you don't want them to become grips in the project).

This way you've got more control over what is shown in what view, and as an added bonus your project is much lighter on both RAM and graphics.

[Alex Page]

We have done similar with the trims / mouldings around our door jambs:
In Plan they only show in fine, but in 3d/ elevations etc they always show.
We did it by creating two over the top of one another.
In your case;
first sweep: Show only in Fine mode for all (plan/elevations/3d)
second sweep: Show only in medium/coarse mode only for elevations/3d