VL-*

[aaronic_abacus]

So I just realized I should not be scared off by VL-*, the long scarey names where single functions!

[peter]

VL is a lot easier than messing with dxf codes and entity lists.

I have started an AutoLISP 101 class that covers that legacy methods, but soon enough I will present classes on VisualLISP too.

I am just stepping through that in order.

P=

[BlackBox]

I've always been a fan of David M. Stein's book, "The Visual LISP Developer's Bible" personally:

https://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=39403.0

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Only $7 at Amazon. <-- Shameless plug

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Cheers

[aaronic_abacus]

does everyone use the visual lisp editor now?

[BlackBox]

does everyone use the visual lisp editor now?

As .LSP files are just plain text, VLIDE is not required, although it is the easiest IDE to use for LISP as a result of the integrated help (unless you're using Civil 3D, as non-ActiveX functions are not included in any help search; only works in vanilla AutoCAD), apropos, etc.

You can use Notepad++ (or other) if you prefer.

[BIG-AL]

2nd the Vlisp bible use, there are other good references as well Ronaldo Togores has a number of Kindle books and very cheap like $8 each.

[peter]

I find most LISP programming books are confusing...

I like the Rawls and Hagen book, but it has errors in it.

I like learning it on my own and occasionally reading a reference.

2 cents

[BlackBox]

I find most LISP programming books are confusing...

I like the Rawls and Hagen book, but it has errors in it.

I like learning it on my own and occasionally reading a reference.

2 cents

David's book is the single best I've read to date; very clear, concise, logical, and it even made it easier to learn C# when reading Andrew Troelsen (some years later).

If you're looking to be a good LISP developer, or instructor, you'd do well to read David's latest book... Money well spent.

Cheers

[Edit] - Heck, David's book helped me to realize some of my ability at not just LISP, but language and coding generally. So much so, that a now former AUGI VP was willing to invite me to become a Mod here.

Perhaps that will help to clarify my sentimental bias. Haha

[peter]

I have taught LISP at University Level before and found (like many instructors) that I found the references lacking.

I also have taught at AU for more than 15 years and found most classes do not teach the most important parts.

I also have very specific programming priorities that those books do not cover the way I would teach them.

The most important is good documentation, variable naming, function naming and error trapping....

I have never seen any LISP books teach that as I would.

Peter

[BlackBox]

I have taught LISP at University Level before and found (like many instructors) that I found the references lacking.

I also have taught at AU for more than 15 years and found most classes do not teach the most important parts.

I also have very specific programming priorities that those books do not cover the way I would teach them.

The most important is good documentation, variable naming, function naming and error trapping....

I have never seen any LISP books teach that as I would.

Peter

All worthy accomplishments - have you ever actually read David's book?