How to plot Metric A3 on 11x17

[Cosmic Traveller]

Hi! I'm going thru a nightmare here and its mainly because I don't usually move between Metric and imperial when plotting. I have a metric dwg with tblock at 400 x 283 A3. Ofcourse I dont use metric paper so the idea is to scale this down to 11 x 17 which is close to the A3 dimensionally. After spending hours I cannot get this to plot. I've tried scaling the Tblock down to 11x17 from the A3. Nothing works! How do people do this. The best I have been able to come up with is the 11x17 with a viewport scale of 1:50,000 scale factor. The frame is 5m long x 3m long or 5000mm x 3000mm which is generally how most people work with metric. Anyone know how to do this! I've had no problem working with meters in the past for site plans!
Thanks
Paul

[dgorsman]

Short version, we work on "normal" full size drawings, either A1 or D size. Printing on 11 x 17 paper (or A3, depending on the printer) is always done scale-to-fit. It's rare to get actual 11x17/A3 drawings here, except for piping isometrics.

Longer version... paper space for metric drawings is millimeters, regardless of units in model space. Sounds like you've not taken that extra scale factor into account. When dealing with meters in model space, the scale to the layout at 1:1000 is numerically 1:1. If you're actually trying to scale that title block to 11 units by 17 units in the layout there will be an extra meter-inch scaling factor in there.

[cadtag]

Possible cheat -- set up a custom paper size, and use that. A3 wold be 11.15 x 15.75 in inches

or, just buy some A3 paper...

[gnelson]

Hi Paul:
Is your 400 x 283 TB a client title block that shouldnt be changed? Or is it something you're creating on your own? As with almost everything AutoCAD, there are lots of options, but I need to know what your end deliverable is before throwing out suggestions.
Thanks
Garry @ KGS