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    Can someone please give me a tutorial on vertically compound walls? I'm getting errors all over the place when I try to attach a wall to my roof. The wall has the exterior sheathing and siding unlocked and extended vertically 8". My roof edge is aligned with the face of core. So the extended layers are supposed to cover the roof edge.

    But when I try to attach the walls I get this error...

    "Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall"

    I also get this when I try to trim two walls together. I've tried making sure the walls are exactly the same with the same top and base extensions, etc. But they just won't trim without giving me the error.

    Attached is the roof will a chain of walls. When I tried to attach the walls some attached some didn't and if I select the ones that didn't and hit attach I get the error. Any ideas?

    Thanks.

    p.s. the only reference I can find to this on the forum is my own earlier post on the same topic. Hasn't anyone ever seen this error before? There must be a rule of thumb that I'm breaking but I don't know what it is.
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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    Quote Originally Posted by noah
    Can someone please give me a tutorial on vertically compound walls? I'm getting errors all over the place when I try to attach a wall to my roof. The wall has the exterior sheathing and siding unlocked and extended vertically 8". My roof edge is aligned with the face of core. So the extended layers are supposed to cover the roof edge.

    But when I try to attach the walls I get this error...

    "Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall"
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    If you attach a verically compound wall to a roof, then you can't extend (up or down) the layers. I think that you want to invert which layers you have unlocked, exterior sheathing and finish layers should be locked and the structure, and interior finish layers should be unlocked. Then you can lower the structure and interior finish layers to the underside of your roof. HTH.
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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    With the advent of the new stacked walls in Revit 7.0, this might be a better solution for you. Stacked walls will attach to roofs and floors, and in my opinion, can be controlled much easier than vertically compound walls.

    Vertically compound walls will not attach if layers have been extended, which really makes them usable for parapet conditions only.

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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    By stacked walls do mean placing two walls side by side in plan view and joining them?

    That's what I ended up doing and it worked fine. Seems a little unfortunate that you can't attach extended walls. Actually you can if the walls is standing alone but as soon as you have a chain of walls the won't attach for some reason. Seems like the factory should work this out.

    However, the side by side walls isn't that bad. I can imagine that this is how I might prefer to work because I can rough in the geometry of the structure using one set of "stud" walls and then later on in CD's add in a second wall for finish (which I can pull down over the foundation and extend up to the parapet. Lots of manual joins but it works.

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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    He means instead of unlocking a material and extending it, to make two walls that are stacked (one on top of the other) instead...(This was supposed to be the definition of a stacked wall, I meant the stack wall command...my English deteriorates as my stay in Poland prolongs)

    right Scott?
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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    No, Stacked Walls are a new wall type, made in the Wall editor, by stacking different wall types on top of each other vertically. They dont have to be completely different wall types. In Revit Help, type "walls, vertically stacked" in the Index box, and you will get the help file for it.

    Revit now has "Basic Walls", "Stacked Walls", and "Curtain Walls" as specific types.
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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    I edited my earlier response....feel bad for my English no good no more, me go read the book of english

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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    It's OK Luigi! I just wanted to make it clear that Stacked Walls is an actual "tool", not just simply drawing one wall type on top of another.

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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    I'll check it out. Out of curiosity how does it clean up? Do stacked walls show the horizontal line between the walls or does revit treat them as a join in elevation and section?

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    Default Re: Cannot extend layer(s) of the highlighted vertically compound wall

    We had to stop attaching stacked walls to roofs, as it gave us problems and errors. Are you not experiencing this with stacked walls Scott?

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