Back in the day Engineer

[afortier]

Its only a minor issue, but my engineer calls himself an "old dog" (and I agree) b/c he doesn't want to change his old ways. B/4 I came here, he drew everything in white, and I'm trying to convince him that it is most beneficial to draw in color- esp. since I made all new ctb files to include all colors. My argument is that it is easier to identify something, by just looking @ it, and that you can easily see if something doesn't belong on that layer...and so on. He still doesn't see my side, but so-come to the fact that we can use colors- so my question is, is there more I can say to him to "ease his pain" of changing?

[RobertB]

Sounds like a small shop with no CAD Standards in place, and no reinforcement of said standards by menu and other customization. Glad I'm not in your shoes.

[afortier]

Its a real small shop- only him and I- I'm setting up standards, but ....well anyway, I hope he figures it out sooner or later!

[Brian Myers]

I'm curious how you went this long without using colors? Did you have different line weights or did everything just look the same?

I suppose you need to approach this with the advantages of using colors and how this can make his final product look better and he can be more productive/make less errors using it. The difficulty is in his approach to design... you'll need to find a way to communicate that using colors, different lineweights, etc. will actually help his process.

I assume this (changing things) will help, right? Sometimes an office will implement more standards than they need just because "everyone else does it"... of course, in the case of using color, I can't imagine that being the case... EVERYONE should practice good drawing habits (lineweights, etc). It's basic design communication....

[jaberwok]

He's unlikely to be older than I am. Tell him that being old doesn't have to be an obstacle to doing it right. He may have started out with a monochrome screen - I did.

[afortier]

I just started here about 2 months ago- b/4 that I worked for a established firm of 70+ people. I was on the "standards committee".
They hired me to come up w/ standards and,of course help get more work out the door. The developer hired me to work w/ the engineer that is under contract- kind of a weird set-up but I enjoy it, and I get home to my children alot sooner than I used too. (3 pm)

He used different lineweights, and I had a perfect example of how its not a good idea- but he is still dragging his feet...its really strange tho, he says he likes things to be simple, and I set up layers and colors so now he doesn't have to start out each dwg changing the lineweights.

So is there anything else I can tell him to reassure him that this will save time and $$?


He's only 33- figure that one out...

[BrenBren]

I just started here about 2 months ago- b/4 that I worked for a established firm of 70+ people. I was on the "standards committee".
They hired me to come up w/ standards and,of course help get more work out the door. The developer hired me to work w/ the engineer that is under contract- kind of a weird set-up but I enjoy it, and I get home to my children alot sooner than I used too. (3 pm)

He used different lineweights, and I had a perfect example of how its not a good idea- but he is still dragging his feet...its really strange tho, he says he likes things to be simple, and I set up layers and colors so now he doesn't have to start out each dwg changing the lineweights.

So is there anything else I can tell him to reassure him that this will save time and $$?


He's only 33- figure that one out...

Well, since you were hired to create CAD Standards, your obligation is to your boss. You have to show the boss that time, thus money, will be saved by using your standards. Hopefully if you have management on your side, they will be able to convince him to follow the standards or else...

[LanceMcHatton]

So is there anything else I can tell him to reassure him that this will save time and $$?

Tell him: "Every single time YOU draw something, *I* have to redraw it. That costs YOU, on average, $x per day, which calc's out to $x per year, which roughly equals 1/x of a brand new Corvette for YOU. However, *I* get paid the same no matter what I do."

Just a thought...

[afortier]

Tell him: "Every single time YOU draw something, *I* have to redraw it. That costs YOU, on average, $x per day, which calc's out to $x per year, which roughly equals 1/x of a brand new Corvette for YOU. However, *I* get paid the same no matter what I do."

Just a thought...

that's an easy way to put it- in terms of that new car that he wants to get soon-

thanks...

[MMccall.83699]

I remember when I first started drawing in CAD, and everything was in one color .... green ... cuz that was the only color the monitors could produce.


Oh, and no mice!