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    Hi Guys,

    I have finally been asked to give some in-house Revit training to the rest of the office here (initially 10 people, then more).
    It is amazing to see the Resistance to any approach toward Revit from the existing ArchiCad users.... they flatly refuse to look at it..

    We work on mainly commercial and institutional buildings, large scale stuff, Universities and Laboratories.
    I was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction with regards to training materials (ie. powerpoint maybe?)
    OR alternatively maybe a step-through on how to setup a large commercial building that will be designed with 10 users/architects.

    Any help you guys could help with will be appreciated as I am literally fighting to get this up and running and need all the ammunition I can muster....

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    My first word of advice would be this: Stay away from powerpoints at all costs! Just show them what the software can do & that is far more powerful than just teasing them with pics. Tease them with the software itself & let it prove to them what it can do.

    The next thing is to remember the KISS approach (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Just design a simple building in front of them. Do this a couple times by yourself & outline what the building will look like so you have something to follow when they are in training.

    Hope these points help you towards winning the battle against Archi-CAD.
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    Books - Lay Christopher Fox + James Balding's " Introducing and Implementing Autodesk Revit " is a good one to use for training.

    Cyril Verlays Advanced Courseware for Autodesk Revit - Commercial is equally good.

    Autodesk also publish Essentials and Advanced training courseware for Revit, which can be ordered through your reseller.

    Check out our LINKS page ( Publishers ) for details.

    For initial training, get them doing stuff hands -on as quickly as possible. Cover the interface briefly, then get straight into modeling with them creating walls, windows, doors, floors , roofs etc.

    Put that into practice modeling a small building.

    Then show them how to quickly dimension and place views on sheets. Then get into some easy scheduling.

    Follow that with an intro to families.

    Should have a happy team by the end of that process !
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    Some very good advise above, and I would add to it by saying that you need to demonstrate the power of Revit and how it out performs ArchiCAD. Coordination is a good one, ease of use and intuitive workflow good to follow up with. Bi-directional workflow is also something they might be interested in. That would mean working in schedules, elevations, sections and 3D and seeing the whole model up date.

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    Show them you can open numerous plans of the same model within one session of Revit, something you can't do in ArchiCAD.

    Show them you can 'drill-down' a detail to an almost infinite level. ie: building section to a wall section to a callout of the wall section to a detail of a piece of the wall section to a specific piece of the detail, and so on. You can literally make a detail of a detail of a detail....something you cannot do in ArchiCAD.

    Show them how easy it is to do multi-story walls in Revit. ArchiCAD has a very tough time dealing with walls that pass from floor to floor continuously.

    Show them how easy it is to set up sheets with views, internally in Revit, without having to open a second program as you do in ArchiCAD.
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    I myself found the included tutorials to be quite good at getting me going. I liked how it walked you through the creation of a whole building first, and then went more in depth into each of the different parts like walls, floors, roofs, doors and windows, etc. I think that using the tools in a basic way first and then learning more about each tool is a good approach, as opposed to just telling all about each tool straight away.

    When a new version of Revit is released that has new tools and features, I usually just go through the tutorial for those new features to see how they work.

    At my office we just printed out the whole tutoral (nearly a full ream of paper printed front and back) and just went through each tutorial session. That's my suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patricks
    I myself found the included tutorials to be quite good at getting me going. I liked how it walked you through the creation of a whole building first, and then went more in depth into each of the different parts like walls, floors, roofs, doors and windows, etc. I think that using the tools in a basic way first and then learning more about each tool is a good approach, as opposed to just telling all about each tool straight away.

    When a new version of Revit is released that has new tools and features, I usually just go through the tutorial for those new features to see how they work.

    At my office we just printed out the whole tutoral (nearly a full ream of paper printed front and back) and just went through each tutorial session. That's my suggestion.
    I went through the tutorials just to see if the program was right for us. I also went through the Archi CAD tortoise as well, but it was to complicated compared to revit. The supplied tutorials should be enough to get them going. Since you are dealing with 10 users, be sure and make them at least do the workset training course that is mentioned the first time you click on worksets. There really isn't any other program out like revit. Archi CAD is old technology. If they don't like change, then consider changing them.

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    ArchiCAD users seem to pick Revit up a hell of a lot quicker than ACAD ADT users by a long shot.

    To me the biggest and best selling point of Revit over ArchiCAD is the family creation. Revit wins hands donw in this regard. However it isn;t something that is picked up straight away and really needs a good familiarity with the program before you can really pick up that side of the software.

    On another note, from experience i would really hseitate dumping 10 people who are new to Revit on the same project at one time. A project that requires that amount of staffing in Revit must be bloody huge. You will be up for all sorts of problems letting 10 inexperienced users have a crack at a new job that size. The best bet is to start off slow and introduce a few at a time to get the hang of it.

    Any project requiring 10 staff working on it should have at least a few that have a decent amount of experience of using it in a practical sense to guide the others through the process.

    Revit beats ArchiCAD and ACAD hands down and is much easier to use, but in all honestly would you have a job with a deadline... pick 10 staff and say "heres some new software, get this job finished while you figure it out".? It just doesnt work.

    Don;t want to scare you, but there is a reality to deal with regarding changing software packages. It is best to jump in on the deep end but you don;t want a team of novices on any software trying to document a project without some good guidance. Setting up a decent size project

    I think however you will be pleasantly surprised when you actually start dicumenting. Even with inexperienced teams we have cut what would have been an 8 person team on a 15 storey building down to 2 using Revit.

    Anyway other than all that the links mentioned above provide some good guides for implementation. All i suggest is take it slow, as more and more people get used to it the easier training will be.

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    I agree with staying away from the powerpoint. Show the software directly and be familiar with a simple design that you can show them.
    I also have used the built in tutorials to train myself. I am by no means a guru but the old joke used to be how useless the books and tutorials were in the older versions of ACAD. Well, ADSK out did themselves with this help file and tutorial system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandlf
    It is amazing to see the Resistance to any approach toward Revit from the existing ArchiCad users.... they flatly refuse to look at it..
    So you're an ArchiCAD office? Why bother switching?

    I know why I would, knowing how ArchiCAD works... but an established group of users... that's tough.
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