Object sorting - where did it go?

[LanceMcHatton]

I'm using 2005 more now and sometimes, when I offset a line on top of another line, it won't show the newest line, it still shows the older one which is on a different layer.

I can't seem to find the list that was in 2002 (see attachment). I know about the SORTENTS variable but I can't find any documentation in the Help even though it's available as a variable in 2005.

Does anyone know what happened?

[eclipse1995gsx]

Have you tried playing around with the draw order of the objects?

[Mike.Perry]

Hi

Sortents:

0 - Off
1 - Object selection
2 - Object snap
4 - Redraws
8 - Mslide slide creation
16 - Regens
32 - Plotting
64 - PostScript output

Default value = 96

For what it is worth I work with Sortents set to 127.

Have a good one, Mike

[jaberwok]

Hi

Sortents:

0 - Off
1 - Object selection
2 - Object snap
4 - Redraws
8 - Mslide slide creation
16 - Regens
32 - Plotting
64 - PostScript output

Default value = 96

For what it is worth I work with Sortents set to 127.

Have a good one, Mike

Strangely, mine is set to 127 but I've not set a value since installing A2006. Perhaps it's a value that gets migrated during an upgrade installation?

[Mike.Perry]

Strangely, mine is set to 127 but I've not set a value since installing A2006. Perhaps it's a value that gets migrated during an upgrade installation?

Hi

Default value = 96 came from the information I had to hand.

In my AcadDoc.lsp file I have the following...

(setvar "SORTENTS" 127) ;All options for sort order are turned ON (Saved in Drwaing)

Hmmm, looks like maybe AutoCAD 2005 changed the default value for Sortents = 127.

Somebody from Autodesk may know the answer.

Have a good one, Mike

[jaberwok]

Hi

Default value = 96 came from the information I had to hand.

In my AcadDoc.lsp file I have the following...
Hmmm, looks like maybe AutoCAD 2005 changed the default value for Sortents = 127.

Somebody from Autodesk may know the answer.

Have a good one, Mike

SORTENTS variable
Type: Integer
Saved in: Drawing
Initial value: 127
Controls the OPTIONS command (from the User Preferences tab) object sort
order operations. SORTENTS uses the following bitcodes:

0 Disables SORTENTS
1 Sorts for object selection
2 Sorts for object snap
4 Clears all the checkboxes
8 Sorts for MSLIDE command slide creation
16 Sorts for REGEN commands
32 Sorts for plotting
64 Clears all the checkboxes

To select more than one setting, enter the sum of the settings' codes. For
example, enter 3 to specify sorting for both object selection and object
snap.

The initial value of 96 enables sorting for plotting and PostScript output
only. Setting additional sorting options can result in slower regeneration
and redrawing times.

There is obviously some confusion over the initial value.

[Mike.Perry]

There is obviously some confusion over the initial value.

Hi

And extracted directly from the AutoCAD Online Help File [F1] for AutoCAD 2002...

Type: Integer
Saved in: Drawing
Initial value: 96

Have a good one, Mike

[LanceMcHatton]

Have you tried playing around with the draw order of the objects?

I understand what you're saying but it would suck tremendously if I had to use DRAWORDER every time I performed an OFFSET or COPY.

What I ended up doing was just setting SORTENTS to 0 and the newest entities show up on top which is exactly what I needed.

Now, it seems as though we are getting off track in this thread. I was wondering if someone knew the answer to the question in my original post:

I can't seem to find the list that was in 2002 (see attachment). I know about the SORTENTS variable but I can't find any documentation in the Help even though it's available as a variable in 2005.

Does anyone know what happened?

Again, this question is regarding 2005.

[Mike.Perry]

Now, it seems as though we are getting off track in this thread. I was wondering if someone knew the answer to the question in my original post:

Again, this question is regarding 2005.

Hi

Did you follow the link I posted above?

Have a good one, Mike

[LanceMcHatton]

Hi

Did you follow the link I posted above?

Have a good one, Mike

Got it. Basically, that link pretty much says the same thing as this thread. Nobody knows what's going on with SORTENTS.

Something interesting, though...I had mine set to 55 (obj. selection, obj. snap, redraws, regens, and plotting). Using this setting, a newer object would actually go UNDER an older one. When I set it to 0, newer objects go on top.

Is anyone else having the same issue? Does everyone end up getting the results they want when setting it to 0? I wonder if Autodesk is doing this to force people to see that it's not working the same anymore and that we just need to set it to 0 because they're going to phase it out later. Maybe they have finally streamlined the sorting process so much that it won't bog down the computer anymore.