An easy way to make Revit wall joins drive you insane

[Wes Macaulay]

The same thing happens with architectural and structural columns...

So for now I'm recommending an in-place void to cut away the wall to reveal the column, which to me is more than a bit brutal as a workaround.

[Wes Macaulay]

Verticals are a little harder but the main problem we have is in trying to get the 15mm joint between the panels.

Try a reveal that's as thick as the wall, or use an in-place family and create a void and then cut geometry to create the joint.

[aaronrumple]

Edit Elevation profile can help eliminate some of these issues. Attached it an example of the curtain wall/wall/column issue. I just let the wall and curtain wall join as they wanted to and then edited the edge of the main wall to allow room for the column.

No big deal...

[Wes Macaulay]

Edit Elevation profile can help eliminate some of these issues.

Sure - I guess if things are moving around at all I could put in a locked dim in the elevation profile from the ref plane denoting the end of the wall to where I want the edge of the wall to end.

[dpollard909366]

If you edit the architectural column family, you can change the column category setting to not automatically join to walls.

This makes life a lot easier when the box is unchecked I think.

[bowlingbrad]

Structural columns are intended to model the structure of a building and architectural (Revit term) columns are intended to get "swallowed" by a wall and further they are meant to reflect a built up condition "around" a colum that otherwise wouldn't "fit" in a wall. Use the right "tool" for the task...

I was having tons of problems with the very condition you spoke of above. I was told by Adesk support that we shouldn't put arch columns 'over' structural columns. DOESN'T THAT DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE!!!

[J. Grouchy]

I sort of wish there was an option for a manual wall join tool. Sometimes disallowing joins creates as bad a problem as letting Revit join walls incorrectly. Maybe sketching the join would help solve some of the many issues people have with the joining function of Revit.
I dunno...certainly someone here will pick this idea apart.

[Revitator]

Yes,

We often produce a detail sheet of wall junctions, 'Type A', 'Type B', etc for the contractor. If we could sketch the wall joins we wanted, and then apply them as styles to particular wall joins in the model, that would be great! We could just leave any non-critical, simple joins to Revit, and get the results we need for the complex joins.

Just my 2p.

[afshin_samimi]

this is just a simple suggestion "I have tried it some time in some Lucky situation it might work is n it the case with REVIT ?!!!"
Solution is to edit your wall sketch profile and rather to [lock / anchor] your profile's line some how with Ref. Line or near by object. This should!!! control the wall from jumping to "quick Conclusion/Snap".

[bowlingbrad]

I was having tons of problems with the very condition you spoke of above. I was told by Adesk support that we shouldn't put arch columns 'over' structural columns. DOESN'T THAT DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE!!!

I found the official support comment. It seems there is a little extra work when placing arch columns over struct columns:

I have done some investigation into the column issue in your project. It appears as though the software is working as designed. Architectural columns are design to join geometry (to the walls) immediately upon placement which allows the wall to “heal” around the column.

The unfortunate side effect of this is that when you place an architectural column over a structural column, it may not display properly until you join the geometry of the structural column to that of the architectural column. You may do this by un-joining the wall and the architectural column and then doing a multiple join of the wall, architectural column and structural column, however this technique has variable results since in your project, it is a corner location and the wall joins can have multiple configurations.

An easier method is just to join the geometry of the structural column to that of the already joined architectural column and clean up whatever stray lines remain using the linework tool.