An easy way to make Revit wall joins drive you insane

[Elrond]

I sort of wish there was an option for a manual wall join tool. Sometimes disallowing joins creates as bad a problem as letting Revit join walls incorrectly. Maybe sketching the join would help solve some of the many issues people have with the joining function of Revit.
I dunno...certainly someone here will pick this idea apart.

Sometimes wall joins can be forced to tidy up the way you want by setting the walls invloved to 'disallow join', dragging the walls to where you want them and then using the join geometry tool to join the walls while they are still set to 'disallow join'.

Also I have found that sometimes after going through the above process then toggling a wall end to 'allow join' it will behave how you want it to.

A good tool to have would be to have an 'edit cut profile' tool that worked on the layers of the wall in 3d instead of the current drafting version.

[luigi]

WOW, somebody resurrected an old thread....

Wasn't the answer to Wes's problem back then to just Disjoin the column from the wall (Disjoin Geometry)? I know that Revit has always automatically joined the geometry of arch. col. with walls, but I also remember being able to just quickly disjoining them and then, dragging to the edge of the arch. column, would work....

[lev.lipkin]

There is option in column family (edit family, go to Settings, Family Category and Parameters, and switch option 'Automatically joins geometry to wall' off) to avoid automatic join geometry.

The thinking behind joining is that column enclosure (for which Columns are primarily targeted for) when touching walls usually assumes wall structure.

If you use column for different purpose or do not want column to assume wall structure automatically, just switch that setting off.

In-place families has this option switched off by default (but it could be switched on).

Sure, disjoin geometry will remove joining between particular pair of wall and column.

[arch_kashif]

Hi, seems like i have understood the difference of understanding of users, and thereby variety of relavent and irrelevant suggested solutions.
I summarize the problem (as understood and faced by me) and then propose a solution:
Specially in Revit 2009, When a structural column is inserted, and a wall element is built touching, passing through or completely embedding the column within it self this happens:
Initially the column (if structural) stays visible, cutting the wall, and later at sometime, during editing walls and specially after joining geometry of wall to column, it gets eaten up by wall element, wall element actually cuts the column. Regardless of the fact if you insert architectural column or a structural column.
Here is a sample image illustrating the problem (column eaten up.jpg)
Note that this does not happen if the same process was done in Revit 2008.
The solution as i figured out is that, Revit 2009 installation comes with Structural Column families named Round column, square column and rectangular column, that are actually not built as structural columns, so even if you insert them as structural columns, they do not act like structural columns , solution is to use family creation template of structural column and then make your own Structural columns.
I post here the self created Structural Column, cutting the wall no matter what.(column eating walls.jpg)
Hope that clarifies a looooong posted confusion by many including me.