View Poll Results: Would you like to have the old steel beam profile shapes?

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  • 4 Stars - Yes Medium priority

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Thread: Old steel profile shapes

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    Default Old steel profile shapes

    Group;

    I know this is probably more for Revit Structures; but I wish I had all the old steel beam profile shapes for use with renovation type work.

    Let me know what you think?

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    Yes, but you probably need to invest in an AISC manual and build your own library for posting on AUGI.

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    I have the AISC Iron and Steel Beams 1873 to 1952 manual.
    These are the shapes I would like available.
    The manual has a bunch of beams in them.
    I'm pretty sure the AISC has all of that information in a database file.
    Autodesk needs to get in contact with the AISC.

    What do you do when you have a renovation job and don't have these beam sizes to use in the model?

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    All you need is a Text file which matches the format of the Type Catalog for a standard steel shape. If you have this list, and have someone that can type, you could easily create the Ttype catalog, apply it to a shape that already exists in the library, and you are done. Here's a piece of th W shape catalog that comes with Revit:

    ,W##other##,A##area##inches,d##length##inches,tw##length##inches,bf##length##inches,tf##length##inches,k##length##inches
    W44X335,335,98.3,44.02,1.025,15.945,1.770,2.625
    W44X290,290,85.8,43.62,0.865,15.825,1.575,2.438
    W44X262,262,77.2,43.31,0.785,15.750,1.415,2.250
    W44X230,230,67.7,42.91,0.710,15.750,1.220,2.063
    W40X593,593,174.0,42.99,1.790,16.690,3.230,4.500
    I would do it in Excel, then export to TXT.

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    Scott;

    So you're saying that we should all create these when we have a renovation job to do.
    Why not provide these with the program? I'm sure some people will run into this, more so for Revit Structures.

    PS: I'm also sure that Autodesk has some people that can type much quicker than me.

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    I'd rather see factory time spent elsewhere. Even though we also occasionally need older steel profiles, it's not a big deal to create them as needed. And of course, once it's done, they're always available.

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    Default Re: Old steel profile shapes

    Just because you would like the factory to spend time else doesn't justify the rejection of such a feature. A vote of yes with low priority would have been nice.

    It's not such a big deal to create these like Scott has mentioned.
    If you have the database file from the AISC than you can convert and create them very easily with MS Access.

    Anyway this feature would be more appealing to Engineers that do mostly renovation type projects and not new construction. Especially if the existing buildings are large and have many various old beam sizes that will remain.

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