Disallow Join for Structural Members

[gregcashen]

We can do this for Walls, why not for structural members? This would go a long way toward eliminating the quirky offsets that plague the structural framing members currently.

[amthony1766]

I think you are refering to the wood joists and beams, the steel beam connections should have the space between them.

[gregcashen]

They ALL have the space between them and NONE of them should. I understand that in reality steel framing would be gapped from beam to column, but not by some arbitrary or fixed amount. I need to be able to select the amount exactly. This feature makes using Revit for fab drawings completely useless, because I end up drafting the detail with the proper gaps, but if I then try to dimension member sizes off the model, the lengths will not be right. Until such time as I have the amount of control over the structural families that I need as an engineer, I'd rather have Revit make NO assumptions about structural behavior. It is VERY limiting.

As a for instance, if you are arraying joists in an area where there are columns and walls and you want the joists to sit on top of the walls, but the columns also sit on top the walls, then anywhere that you have a joist near a column, it will snap to that column and skew the joist. Totally unacceptable behavior and it makes doing framing plans with actual members so unpleasant I almost never do it.

<end of rant>

[ajayholland]

Greg,

See my post today for "joining precast components". This technique may work until the next round of structural enhancements.

I suppose what's needed is for the two components to automatically adjust for any possible combination.

~AJH

[eds, how about a link?]
[gregcashen: done!]

[captainbunsaver]

Has this been fixed in 9.0?

TC

[Justin Marchiel]

i am interrested if there is anymore discussion on this. I have been doing a new job in 9.0 and the members still seem to gap from each other.

Justin

[ajayholland]

In Revit Buiilding V9, there are parameters for start and end extensions, and grips which allow these gaps to be adjusted graphically.

~AJH

[Revit Face Punch]

Its over 12 years later and still an issue to en extent. I am trying to find a way to stop my beams from automatically joining. I know I can go into every beam and right click on the blue dot and tell it to "disallow join" but when I have literally 10000s of beams I need this done with, its frustrating.
Has anyone figured out a way to set it so the beams just dont join while you draw them in? Changing material and structural usage seem to have no affect on the issue.
I am thinking no but I figured Id ask anyways.