Autoload Lisp routines together

[ccowgill]

Is there a way to load all lisp routines together or not at all.

I want to set up our routines so that they are on autoload in our engineering.lsp which is loaded from the acaddoc.lsp file, I dont want users to be able to load the files individually.

Any suggestions?

[Opie]

Huh? I don't quite follow. You don't want your users loading the engineering.lsp file without the acaddoc.lsp file? Is this correct?

[.T.]

Hi Christopher,

Have you looked into Projects in VLIDE and creating (making) FAS files? Just an idea. Someone else may have a better one.

[rkmcswain]

Is there a way to load all lisp routines together or not at all.

I want to set up our routines so that they are on autoload in our engineering.lsp which is loaded from the acaddoc.lsp file, I dont want users to be able to load the files individually.

Any suggestions?

So engineering.lsp is loaded by acaddoc.lsp?

...and you don't want your users loading them manually? Why not, what difference does it make as long as it's the same engineering.lsp? Are users loading different versions of the same named function? Just curious...

[ccowgill]

acaddoc loads engineering,

engineering is full of autoloads for other lisp routines that we use. for example plot.lsp

this plot.lsp is setup to run spell check first before plotting. there are also variables that are set in the engineering.lsp file, it kind of takes the place of acad.lsp

I dont want the users loading the individual lisp routines manually, I would like them to only be available through the autoload listed in engineering.lsp

I have looked into making a VLX, but it seems to fully load the routines, and I would prefer them to be loaded on an as needed basis.

[rkmcswain]

I dont want the users loading the individual lisp routines manually, I would like them to only be available through the autoload listed in engineering.lsp

So engineering.lsp loads other lisp files, the code isn't in engineering.lsp? I guess I still don't see what difference it makes whether a particular lisp file/function is loaded from engineering.lsp or by the user. If the function definition is the same, what are you trying to avoid?

I don't see any way to do what you want. Any file that engineering.lsp loads, the user can just as easily load - as long as they know the location of the file(s).

I have looked into making a VLX, but it seems to fully load the routines, and I would prefer them to be loaded on an as needed basis.

A VLX is just a compiled lisp, the only purpose that would serve is keeping the users from being able to read the code. FAS would serve the same purpose.

[ccowgill]

I didn't think that there was a way, my main thought was that it would force users to stop using startup suite and force them to begin using the network location for routines. All that needs to be done is add a path at the top of the support file search path, and all the routines will load as needed automatically. Thanks any way, it always helps to bounce ideas off someone, even if the idea goes splat.

[rkmcswain]

my main thought was that it would force users to stop using startup suite and force them to begin using the network location for routines.

In that case, create a VBS file that will delete registry entries in the following location:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\Rxx.x\ACAD-xxxx:xxx\Profiles\<yourprofilename>\Dialogs\Appload\Startup

...and add it to their Windows logon script.

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Although... this goes against my favorite CAD Management rule of all time from Mark Kiker:

"Don't let a management problem become a technology problem"

[ccowgill]

does that disable the startup suite?

[rkmcswain]

does that disable the startup suite?

That is where startup suite entries are stored.