Wall goes through glass roof

[Damo]

This simple little project is certainly giving me lots of opportunities to learn the inner workings of Revit.

Here’s the latest conundrum I’ve got.

Sloping glazing, take brick wall to attach to underside, except the wall projects slightly through the glass.

Cannot see a variable where I get the wall to fall slightly short of the sloping glass.

Appreciate any pointers. Thanks

Damian

[aaronrumple]

In this case I wouldn't attach the wall to the roof. I'd use a level or reference line (or explicit height)... You can then adjust the wall height to allow for the construction detail at the interesection of these two structures...

[Damo]

Thanks Aaron. Good suggestion.

I'll do this, although I can't help feeling it's a workaround, and not the way I expected Revit to work.

Any ideas whether I've done something fundamentally wrong, or is it just one of those things that Revit cannot do yet?

Damian

[PeterJ]

Just check how your glazing offsets from the actual defined roof plane. It may be that the glass is set back behind the roof plane and when you attach the brick wall it is jumping up to the roof plane not the glass material.

I'm guessing here though.

[stuntmonkee]

Take into consideration that in real life the brick wouldnt be extened up to the wall in the first place. I would assume that this isnt going to be a strictly brick wall anyway, and might be. . .CMU with a brick veneer? so you would probably have a plate on top that connects to a mullion that you have fall in the right spot.

So Aarons sugestion really isn't a work around. Sometimes you have to think detail before you think why "insert program here" doesn't do this. If I were you, I would set the wall height, and then model some kind of plate on top of the wall. Might look nice to run a nice wood beam along the inside or top of that wall and attach the glazing on top of that, then you could slope the top of the beam to match the slope of the glazing.

Just an idea
good luck
stunts

[Mr Spot]

Where the wall attaches to depends on how the structure of your wall and roof is setup priority wise. For instance if you set the priority of the sloped glazing to be finish (4) and the wall is structure (1) then it shouldin't go through the roof. Similarly you could reduce the priority of the wall to substrate (2) and level the roof as structure (1).

Hope this makes sense.

[stuntmonkee]

Where the wall attaches to depends on how the structure of your wall and roof is setup priority wise. For instance if you set the priority of the sloped glazing to be finish (4) and the wall is structure (1) then it shouldin't go through the roof. Similarly you could reduce the priority of the wall to substrate (2) and level the roof as structure (1).

Hope this makes sense.

Good call. . . .& nice little devil guy

[Damo]

.... I would set the wall height, and then model some kind of plate on top of the wall. Might look nice to run a nice wood beam along the inside or top of that wall and attach the glazing on top of that, ....

Thanks Stunts, but the project is just conceptual for a client at this stage, and I didn't want to get into detailed modelling just yet.

It's late here in the UK, and tomorrow I'm on a Revit course (yippee!) so I'll get on to some of the suggestions as soon as I can, and report back my success (or otherwise).

Cheers

Damian

[Damo]

Just check how your glazing offsets from the actual defined roof plane. It may be that the glass is set back behind the roof plane and when you attach the brick wall it is jumping up to the roof plane not the glass material.

I'm guessing here though.

Peter,

Exactly spot-on. In Element Properties I changed the Offset from +37 to minus 20, moving the glass above the sloped glazing plane and, presto!, wall no longer passes through the glass.

Thanks (to everyone, including my revit tutor)

Damian