walls with batt insulation

[Justin Marchiel]

how does everyone handle walls with batt insulation? there are 2 things that i would like to do (my workarounds are included). Can anyone think of a better solution?

Example
1/2" gwb both sides of 2x4. 1 wall has batts, 1 wall doesn't. i can't create 2 walls, becasue there is no where for the batt materials so:

1. create a shared parameter (instance) that i would attach to the walls, so when checked it would at least be tagable seperatly from when it is not checked.
2. to schedule, scheudle the studs and rename the schedule to batts.

Did i miss something, or is this the way to fly?

Thanks

justin

[sleimgruber06]

Wow... this is beyond my Revit for sure! But it sure sounded cool ecspecially if you can get it to work! Sorry I'm not much help to you today Justin, but let me ask you a question; Will you be attending AU this year in Vegas?

[Justin Marchiel]

i wish that i could, but probably not. too many deadlines, and too little funds in the development purse.

Justin

[sleimgruber06]

i wish that i could, but probably not. too many deadlines, and too little funds in the development purse.

Justin

I'm sorry to hear that... but hey, just a thanks to you because even though you probably don't quite remember, you've been helpin me out lately with my questions on AUGI so yea...thanks!

[Justin Marchiel]

no problem, what goes around comes around. if i can help someone hopefully they will learn a skill and help me.

That is the great thing about these forums!

Justin

[dbaldacchino]

I don't follow what you mean by "i can't create 2 walls, becasue there is no where for the batt materials". Are you trying to schedule how much batt insulation you have? Why not create two walls that have the same layers (gyp on either side of a 3.5" core) but have a different type mark and type name? Aren't exterior walls supposed to have a finish such as stucco, brick, metal panel, siding, etc? I'm trying to understand your issue.

[david.fannon]

I think I am with David on this one. I don't understand why two wall types, each with a 3 1/2" core, one with the core as material "air space" one with a material "batt insulation" and each with its own type, mark etc. If you are really concerned about it, you could make new materials called "Studs @ 16" o.c." and "Studs @ 16" o.c. w/ Batt Insulation."

I am probably missing something obvious here, but this has worked pretty well for us, we have a bunch of types in the office which are variations on a basic theme. In Revit we just make them all as unique wall types and swap in and out as required.

[Justin Marchiel]

the reason that i didn't want 2 wall types is that it start to bloat the file. as you can appreciate, there will be double the amount of walls, because the batt insulation will just be a copy of the original, but with batts.

I am still looking into the problem, and have not come up with a great solution, but i am working on it.

Justin

[dbaldacchino]

I really doubt it will bloat your file.

[Dimitri Harvalias]

Justin,

I think all the Davids are right on this one. Just create different materials for the cores. Not all your walls will be insulated so just a few new material definitions should do it.
Studs-wood
Studs-Wood-Insulated

This approach also allows you to create wall types where you have double studs with only one side insulated. You can also define the materials with a different cut pattern to have them visually identifiable as insulated in plan or section.
I'm sure by 'bloat' you mean a more crowded type selector not actually increased file size, right?