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    I've attached two jpgs: a 2d ADT elevation and an early elevation view from Revit. How do I get Soldier and Rowlock brick courses at my openings?

    Also, I want to model the wall expansion joint. How would you do that?
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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    Quote Originally Posted by raddis
    I've attached two jpgs: a 2d ADT elevation and an early elevation view from Revit. How do I get Soldier and Rowlock brick courses at my openings?

    Also, I want to model the wall expansion joint. How would you do that?
    For soldier and rowlock you could use the split face tool and paint a different material where needed. Or you can place a generic model. Or you can build the sill, etc. into the window itself. A lot depends on the overall design and the amount of variation in the windows.

    Don't bother modeling expansion joints. Just draw a model line on the face of the building.
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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    I would create a wall based family that you apply the brick soldier course material and pattern to. The way I've done this is making the family stick out 1/8" so it's proud of the wall and will show up. See attached image.

    For expansion joints I make reveals 1/16" wide that are the depth of the wall. Pretty simple and you don't have to worry about coordinating detail lines from view to view. I guess you could also use a model line attached to the wall plane.
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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronrumple
    Don't bother modeling expansion joints. Just draw a model line on the face of the building.
    If you're talking an expansion joint just for the brick, I agree. If its a building expansion joint, I would model it. "Wall expansion joint" seemed slightly unclear to me, as a building expansion joint requires a joint in the wall as well.

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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    Thanks all.
    Arron or anyone, is your method explained anywhere in a tutotial?

    >>split face tool and paint a different material where needed<<

    I assume this would be useful for bathroom elevations where I only need tile to say 4'-0" then paint above?

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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    This I got it from the help file.
    1. Go to elevation view
    2. Use Split face tool
    3. Pick edge of wall, then draw rectangular shape of solder/rowlock area.
    4. Use Paint tool and paint coursing.

    Now I just have to figure out how to create this rowlock pattern. (I'll check out the solder one. Can you adjust the pattern start point?

    Also, can you copy a split face area from one place to another? Or do I have to repeat this process at each window?

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    The rowlock and soldier at the windows or opening should be part of a window or opening family. Basically in revit anything that is repeated more than once should be part of a family.
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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    There is no window at this point, just the exterior brick cladding.
    The window is recessed 14"and will be inserted into this separate wall.

    Doing a composite wall:
    1. Makes no sense as the brick is continuous while the interior stud wall stops at each floor
    2. Way too complicated for getting the windows to insert.

    The Split/Paint functions seems to work well.

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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    Quote Originally Posted by raddis
    There is no window at this point, just the exterior brick cladding.
    The window is recessed 14"and will be inserted into this separate wall.

    Doing a composite wall:
    1. Makes no sense as the brick is continuous while the interior stud wall stops at each floor
    2. Way too complicated for getting the windows to insert.

    The Split/Paint functions seems to work well.
    Ah - I think I remember your plan view. In this case, I asume the brick sill extends two courses back to the panel uner the window. If this is the case, I'd personally create this as a floor. It would give me a correct section. I could apply a 1/4" / ft. slope for the sill. I could extend it out for a drip. The brick would show in plan. However I would have to paint the edge of the floor slab to show the rowlock. But it wouldn't require a split face. and one I got one made, it could copy it around very quickly. I could even group it with to make copying faster.

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    Default Re: Soldier - Rowlock courses + expansion joint

    Thanks.
    We've been avoiding the slabs at present but will be getting to them soon (exterior enclosure wasn't finished yet.

    And yes, your memory of the project serves you well! See the attached jpg for progress.
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