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    Default Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Another 08 issue. When opening any files from older versions, (ADT 07, 06), I get a message saying there are "New Unreconciled Layers". When I click on the icon on the bottom right corner with the exclamation point, it says click here to see new unreconciled layers. OK, great, here they are. What the hell are they and what am I supposed to do about it? All I know for sure is that these particular layers won't plot.
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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Please note I am moving this to the AutoCAD 2008 general forum.
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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Unreconciled layers is a new feature for the layer manager box introduced for AutoCAD 2008. You can either use the feature or turn it off. You need to go into the layer manager to do this.
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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Take a look at this link for a better understanding of Unreconciled layers:

    http://heidihewett.blogs.com/my_webl...notificat.html

    Its used to track/manage newly added layers.
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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Take a look at the system variables "layereval" and "layernotify".

    Also go to http://www.jtbworld.com/autocad2008.htm and scroll down to Layer Notification, Jimmy Bergmark has written a routine to remove this feature from a drawing.
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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    To answer your immediate question, when you get warned of "Unreconciled layers", go ahead and look at them. Select them all, and then right-click and select "Reconcile layer".

    It's quite annoying, but we've been leaving it on for now. We're starting to think this feature might be useful, but the default behavior Autodesk implemented this time around is more annoying than anything.

    It's designed to deal with the problem created when new linework is added to an XREF. For example, you create a plan set that XREFs in a base file. The plan set is finished, but the project is not finished. So you continue working, and add more stuff to your base file. Now you need to print out that early plan set again. If you simply print it, it will contain all the new linework you added to the base file. This might cause problems, such as text overtyping, and it might be data that is not supposed to be in the early plan set. This feature is designed to warn you of that.

    However, that means it is worthless UNTIL you hit the point that you want to "freeze" a plan set. So it really should be an option that is turned OFF by default, and is something you can turn ON when you reach a point that your plan set is considered "complete", and you actually WANT the warning that new layers have been added to your XREFs. There should also be a button that says "Reconcile all layers and plot", rather than that obnoxious dialog that forces you to either look at the unreconciled layers or cancel the plot.

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    To get rid of the annoying unreconciled Layer pop up,

    -Search C drive for "acad2008doc.lsp"
    -Open with notepad.
    -Scroll down to bottom of page and paste:-

    (setvar "layereval" 0)

    (setvar "layernotify" 0)

    -Save and close
    -Restart AutoCAD


    Now the Message will not show again.

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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Quote Originally Posted by sinc View Post
    It's designed to deal with the problem created when new linework is added to an XREF. For example, you create a plan set that XREFs in a base file. The plan set is finished, but the project is not finished. So you continue working, and add more stuff to your base file. Now you need to print out that early plan set again. If you simply print it, it will contain all the new linework you added to the base file. This might cause problems, such as text overtyping, and it might be data that is not supposed to be in the early plan set. This feature is designed to warn you of that.
    oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh, so THAT'S what that's for!!!!!!! we actually do have a lot of that going on with our projects (multiple stages).........too bad most of them are not in 2008 yet, though.

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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Quote Originally Posted by matthew.smith View Post
    Search ... for "acad2008doc.lsp"
    1. You should not edit "acad200xdoc.lsp". This file belongs to AutoCAD is is subject to being overwritten during a repair, reinstall, upgrade, etc. Use "acaddoc.lsp" for user added functionality.
    More info:
    http://support.autodesk.com/getdoc.asp?ID=TS21336
    http://support.autodesk.com/getdoc.asp?ID=TS28079

    2. LAYEREVAL and LAYERNOTIFY are drawing saved system variables. Setting them at startup will change DBMOD. This is undesired in most cases. Drawing saved sysvars should be set in the template drawing(s) when possible.

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    Default Re: Unreconciled Layers, can someone please explain what they are

    Quote Originally Posted by sinc View Post
    However, that means it is worthless UNTIL you hit the point that you want to "freeze" a plan set.
    It's also worthless when you PUBLISH a set of drawings.

    1. You don't get the warnings.
    2. It wouldn't help if you did, since the whole point of PUBLISH is not having to open each drawing.

    Another way to achieve the same results... FREEZE all layers in xref drawings (before creating the xref). Then in order for new geometry to show up, you have to go into the parent drawing and THAW it.

    Works if you need the new geometry to show up in 1 out of 100 sheets. Not so good if you need it to show up in 50 or 75 of the 100 sheets.

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