Universally Disallow Wall Joins

[Ning Zhou]

uploaded rvt and jpgs, very appreciated if anyone can point out what makes walls in different levels joined together, seems it's not joined by:
1) align tool
2) dimension lock
3) join geometry tool
4) ?
thanks.

[bregnier]

My guess would be that the wall below was visible when the top wall was sketched and as the second wall was made Revit assumed that their being coincident in plan was important, similar to when floor lines drawn to the face of a wall will sometimes "follow" the wall. I find this kind of behavior annoying as well-- automatic wall joins are great but it should be more clear in what situations objects will get tied to one other - right now it's paramount to witchcraft. Try shaking your talisman at the screen.

[Ning Zhou]

right, typical case of Revit being too "smart"!!!
thanks bregnier.

[ejdolly352213]

No, and i don't think i would want that. Probably 95% of my joins are OK so i'd rather deal with 5%.
Are you having a specific issue?

This is almost never the case, unless I'm very quickly throwing a schematic together. In every building we've done, I'd say at best revit gets 50% of the joins correct, decreases with number of wall types and complexity as we delve further in the model. Yes there's a breaking point where you stop modeling and start detailing, but we're nowhere near that point. This Bulgarian project in particular has reinforced cast in place concrete sections as structure with clay block infill, so the wall type changes every 4-8', and with the automatic joining and snapping things are all over the place and any time anything moves any effort I spent wrestling the joins into submission is lost. I know where every wall is supposed to stop and start and where they go, I'm going around the entire building already, I should have the option to disallow all joins. If there's a way to toggle this off (much easier than programming the complexity of guessing joins!!), someone please let me know. If not, this is just a rant - whatisrice, I'm with you.