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    Default Blocks won't turn off

    I have some blocks on a layer that is 'off', but the blocks won't turn off. Any ideas as to why?

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by cwjean76 View Post
    I have some blocks on a layer that is 'off', but the blocks won't turn off. Any ideas as to why?
    the block doesnt appear to shut off because objects within the block are on different layers. If you wish for these blocks to "disappear" you must use freeze on the layer the block is inserted on.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by ccowgill View Post
    the block doesnt appear to shut off because objects within the block are on different layers. If you wish for these blocks to "disappear" you must use freeze on the layer the block is inserted on.
    Thanks. That should've occurred to me. Feels like Monday rolled over into today.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Just FYI, I always create my blocks on layer 0. When you do that, they block will take on the properties of whatever layer you put it on.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by dzatto View Post
    Just FYI, I always create my blocks on layer 0.
    So do I and I thought everyone did. It just makes sense in my eyes. These were some drawings that I received and was cleaning up for our use. For some reason...that just didn't click with me, when I froze the layer, that that was the problem.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by cwjean76 View Post
    So do I and I thought everyone did. It just makes sense in my eyes. These were some drawings that I received and was cleaning up for our use. For some reason...that just didn't click with me, when I froze the layer, that that was the problem.
    Yeah, everyone "should" create blocks on layer 0. But we all know how that goes.........

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by dzatto View Post
    Yeah, everyone "should" create blocks on layer 0. But we all know how that goes.........
    that's the only reason I know why it wouldnt work. I wish I could convince everyone I work with to do it properly. At least when we redid our standards, I was the one in charge of modifying everything, it allowed me to fix our standard blocks so they were done properly.

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    I agree that block should be defined at layer 0. But are we forgetting here that xref's are also treated as blocks? In this case, we can't avoid there are other layers inside our xref. Just play with LAYFRZ's Nesting settings/options. (Block-level, Entity level and No nesting.) Somehow, you'll get what you need.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    Quote Originally Posted by arshiel88 View Post
    I agree that block should be defined at layer 0. But are we forgetting here that xref's are also treated as blocks? In this case, we can't avoid there are other layers inside our xref. Just play with LAYFRZ's Nesting settings/options. (Block-level, Entity level and No nesting.) Somehow, you'll get what you need.
    They are? In what way? I thought Xref's were Xref's and blocks were blocks. Unless you bind an Xref, then yes, it is converted to a block and inserted in the drawing.

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    Default Re: Blocks won't turn off

    I think what arshiel88 is saying is that xrefs act like blocks b/c they can be controlled by whatever layer to insert them on if it is not the "0" layer.

    Aka if you have "A-Anno-Note" layer set as current when you xref in a dwg (either overlay or attach) that xref will then "disappear" when A-Anno-Note layer is frozen.

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