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    Default Has anyone developed any courseware??

    I've got a class to teach on Revit MEP Electrical only and it's definitely not an easy task to pull out just what is needed to teach a class on that alone. Well, that and there are a few errors in the AOTC courseware..

    Has anyone developed a decent training manual or does anyone know of any books on Revit MEP Electrical that will work?

    The client has already been through a "This is Revit Architecture" class and they're chomping at the bit for Revit MEP Electrical.

    Any ideas??
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    Default Re: Has anyone developed any courseware??

    Have you seen the new 2009 AOTC Courseware? We completely revamped this year's courseware and it is now a much better representation of the essential information for success with Revit MEP.

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    What would really make the AOTC courseware for Revit MEP work a lot more efficiently is to break out each discipline and allow us to teach it to clients on an as needed basis instead of taking them through a 3 day class. In the case of the electrical part of the AOTC courseware, I could about 24 pages in chapter 11 an a few pages scattered throughout the book on things you need to have set up.

    I've been trying to go through the tutorials and can't even get past the Spaces section without a problem.

    I'd like to see something along the lines of the Autocad MEP AOTC courseware where we have one volume for the essentials, and then a volume each for the other disciplines. There are quite a few firms out there that only specialize in one of the disciplines and it would sure make it a lot easier to teach them and look a lot more organized than skipping around through the book.

    Unless of course, I've missed something in the 2009 courseware that tells me what sections to use for electrical, or HVAC, or Fire Suppression??
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    I was going to suggest a Wiki for Revit - we could have all chipped in with what we've learned. However...I did some investigation and there seems to be problems with copyright. For example, you're not allowed to post screen shots of software, so that would reduce it's usefullness a hell of a lot.

    I set up a Cad Manual using html at my last place and I guess I could do something along those lines for Revit. But it would be a huge job especially considering the three diffferent services.

    We need a Revit for Dummies.

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    Default Re: Has anyone developed any courseware??

    Quote Originally Posted by pauljordan View Post
    I've got a class to teach on Revit MEP Electrical only and it's definitely not an easy task to pull out just what is needed to teach a class on that alone. Well, that and there are a few errors in the AOTC courseware..

    Has anyone developed a decent training manual or does anyone know of any books on Revit MEP Electrical that will work?

    The client has already been through a "This is Revit Architecture" class and they're chomping at the bit for Revit MEP Electrical.

    Any ideas??
    Hi Paul,

    I did one of these a few weeks ago (single student though) and I planned to use the beginning and the end of the AOTC book and used the Tutorials for electrical right from the help section.

    This particular student had actually taken the RAC Essentials course and didn't need the general Revit stuff. We eneded up using just the tutorial exercises (the benefit of 1-on-1 training is being flexible I guess.) IMO the tutorial exercises are more clearly written and the datasets are better than the AOTC. The 09 AOTC for REVIT MEP is seriously lacking in Electrical specific content.

    I agree that the Revit MEP AOTC manual should be available in disciple specific moduals like the AMEP 08. What electrical designer cares about modeling ductwork? and vice-versa? Oh... I feel a rant coming on.... Where the heck is the 09 AMEP courseware.... jeesh! (Rant narrowly averted, although I already posted about this already this morning over on the AMEP forum.)

    I think that the Revit MEP 09 AOTC is one of the better written versions of courseware that I have seen and it finally includes the general Revit info needed to get up and running on the software, but it lacks discipline specific conetent.


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    Default Re: Has anyone developed any courseware??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Matthews View Post
    ...We need a Revit for Dummies.
    I'd prefer to avoid working with dummies!

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    Default Re: Has anyone developed any courseware??

    Hey, I am not a Dummy by any stretch, but those books are great! Really a Revit MEP for Dummies would be perfect, I know we would buy it.

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    Hmmm...gap in the market...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwade View Post
    Hey, I am not a Dummy by any stretch, but those books are great! Really a Revit MEP for Dummies would be perfect, I know we would buy it.
    I'm actually sitting here pondering that idea. I wonder what it would take to write one and use the "for Dummies" format along with their marketing? We could actually write it for all three versions of Revit that are on the market now.

    Would there be any problem using the Revit name as long as we note that it's an Autodesk owned trademark?

    Hmmm..

    I'm writing the courseware now as it is, trying to break it into different modules. It's a slow process because of all my other little jobs that pop up... "You're presenting at CadCamp, here's what you're talking about..." "You've got a Revit MEP course in Seattle next week, 22 students, have fun.." "Someone called in sick, a client wants to know about Revit Architecture, he'll be in at 11am..."

    Ahh, the joys of being an application specialist..
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    Default Re: Has anyone developed any courseware??

    Quote Originally Posted by pauljordan View Post
    Would there be any problem using the Revit name as long as we note that it's an Autodesk owned trademark? ...

    I'm writing the courseware now as it is, trying to break it into different modules. It's a slow process because of all my other little jobs that pop up...
    There is already (and has been for awhile) AutoCAD for Dummies... So I don't think the Copyright issue of the name is a problem. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but certainly doable.

    The biggest challenge I see off hand is time... At this point you would want to be writing for 2010. Honestly, I don't know how software writer's do it. Who thought it would be a good idea to have yearly releases?....

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