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    Quote Originally Posted by irneb View Post
    In most cases you can pretty much figure out what it is from the name of the folder / key. See the attached screen capture ... it shows the registry folder for the INSERT dialog (about 6 folders up from the Layer Manager dialog). You can see the saved settings in the right-hand pane, e.g.:
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    X, Y is the dialog position on screen (top left = 0,0)
    Width & Height is the dialog's size
    Explode, LocationOnScreen, RotationOnScreen, ScaleOnScreen, ScaleUniformly are those check boxes 1=ON, 0=OFF.
    Further down (4 down from LM) you can see the Linetype Dialog, then Lineweight, Load / Reload Lin, etc. Very much the same applies to any dialog. It will have a position indicator using some X/Y value, and if sizable will have a width/height as well. Some (like the layer manager) have these combined into a bounds setting.
    ok. so, generally, what is the "center" of a screen? I know it varies depending on monitor size, but there has to be a range that we can use ....
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    As per your screen res it would be the width and height divided by 2. E.g. my screen's at 1680x1050. So the exact mid of this would be 840 for X & 525 for Y. But if you set that as the dialog's position - it's placed with its top-left corner at that spot. So to get the dialog centralized on the screen, you also need to know its size - then deduct half of that from the midpoint you calculated previously.

    While that will place it exactly in the middle of the screen, you obviously don't need it that precise ... as long as you can see the whole thing it should be fine. Something like 150 for X & 100 for Y should do for nearly everything. This will ensure it doesn't overlap your menu bar / tool bars on the left side. Then the only possible problem could be that the dialog is set larger than your screen size. In which case, you need to change the Width & Height settings in registry to something about 200 smaller than the screen res.

    Remember, you don't need to set the registry exactly perfect. As long as you can see the dialog, you can move / stretch it normally and the new value will be saved to registry by AC itself. Then after that you can save these settings to a REG file by right clicking on any of the registry folders and selecting Export. Everything under that folder, including sub-folders, will be saved to a REG file. I use this for backup of settings. Then a simple double click on that file restores these settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irneb View Post
    As per your screen res it would be the width and height divided by 2. E.g. my screen's at 1680x1050. So the exact mid of this would be 840 for X & 525 for Y. But if you set that as the dialog's position - it's placed with its top-left corner at that spot. So to get the dialog centralized on the screen, you also need to know its size - then deduct half of that from the midpoint you calculated previously.

    While that will place it exactly in the middle of the screen, you obviously don't need it that precise ... as long as you can see the whole thing it should be fine. Something like 150 for X & 100 for Y should do for nearly everything. This will ensure it doesn't overlap your menu bar / tool bars on the left side. Then the only possible problem could be that the dialog is set larger than your screen size. In which case, you need to change the Width & Height settings in registry to something about 200 smaller than the screen res.

    Remember, you don't need to set the registry exactly perfect. As long as you can see the dialog, you can move / stretch it normally and the new value will be saved to registry by AC itself. Then after that you can save these settings to a REG file by right clicking on any of the registry folders and selecting Export. Everything under that folder, including sub-folders, will be saved to a REG file. I use this for backup of settings. Then a simple double click on that file restores these settings.
    Great advice, sound opinions.

    Thank you very much for taking the time to explain things to me a little more. Very much appreciated! I'll rep you again once I am able to.
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    It's a pity that somebody like him is still 'glowing brightly' even after 1140 posts...!! . No more commets on that matter .
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomharis View Post
    It's a pity that somebody like him is still 'glowing brightly' even after 1140 posts...!! . No more commets on that matter .
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    I know that this is a bit late in the game to post this... but you can move windows without doing a reg edit. If a window is supposed to come up and doesn't when you click on the button to launch it try this.
    without clicking anywhere (this will keep the hidden window active)
    hit these buttons on your keyboard
    "alt", "enter", down arrow, "enter", down arrow.
    Now move your mouse and the window should be attached to your pointer.
    you can test this with a window that you can see just make sure you have the sequence correct.
    Hope this helps people without access to the registry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandenz View Post
    hit these buttons on your keyboard
    "alt", "enter", down arrow, "enter", down arrow.
    Didn't work for me ... could you please explain what's supposed to happen? Do you keep Alt depressed throughout, just on the Enter, or as a normal keypress.

    In some cases the Enter causes the dialog to close. Also I tried it with a normal window and created a dialog which doesn't close on Enter. Moved these outside the screen. And tried your suggestion. Nothing happened with either. Tried all the combinations of Alt depressed or not I could think of. Still noting ... maybe I did something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irneb View Post
    Didn't work for me ... could you please explain what's supposed to happen? Do you keep Alt depressed throughout, just on the Enter, or as a normal keypress.

    In some cases the Enter causes the dialog to close. Also I tried it with a normal window and created a dialog which doesn't close on Enter. Moved these outside the screen. And tried your suggestion. Nothing happened with either. Tried all the combinations of Alt depressed or not I could think of. Still noting ... maybe I did something wrong.
    sorry, you hit the keys individually so hit the "alt" key and that activates the pulldown then "enter" (down arrow works as well), then the "down arrow", then "enter" to select the "move" command, finally hit "any arrow" key to attach the window to your mouse.
    You can test this procedure using the text style window, although it does not require the third step (down arrow).
    I hope that is a bit clearer. Sorry for the confussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irneb View Post
    Didn't work for me ... could you please explain what's supposed to happen? Do you keep Alt depressed throughout, just on the Enter, or as a normal keypress.
    I avoid the enter key:

    1. tap the alt key
    2. tap the up arrow


    in one corner of your screen(s) you should see a selection menu, scroll to MOVE and press the arrow to move the missing dialog back into view.

    If the context menu appears in the left corner, I press the right direction arrow.
    If the context menu appears in the right corner, I press the left direction arrow.
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    This is probably why it didn't work for me. Alt+Enter does open the window control menu in the top-left corner of the dialog. But when I hit the Enter key - the Move option is grayed. If I use Alt+Space, the Move option is available .... very strange.

    BTW, why not simply Alt+Space M ... It does the same as Alt+Space Down Enter.
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