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    Question Best Template for Duct Smoke Detector?

    Does anyone have any brilliant ideas about what template to use for a duct smoke detector? The two main things that seem to complicate the matter are:

    1.) the detector should glom onto the side of a duct without breaking it, and move with the duct; and
    2.) I need to see a symbol when I look at the detector in plan or RCP

    I’m having the same issues with a CO2 duct sensor.

    There doesn’t seem to be a template for duct accessories, and the OotB duct accessory families all have air flowing through them, and break the duct. Face-based families don’t let you see generic annotations that are embedded in them. And all my attempts to create a generic model and switch it to a duct accessory have yielded unpredictable and unsatisfactory results. They often don’t want to grab onto the side of the duct, or if they do, and you delete the accessory, the duct deletes itself, too, even though the duct’s geometry isn’t affected at all.

    I’m wondering if a workplane-based family might work. I know Autodesk says that we aren’t really supposed to use workplane based families any more, but seeing as how I haven’t found anything else that works right….

    What did other people do for duct smoke detectors and CO2 duct sensors?

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    Default Re: Best Template for Duct Smoke Detector?

    I just used a non-hosted family and used a 2D symbol. Electrically it is fire alarm category for us.
    Margaret Wiggins
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    Default Re: Best Template for Duct Smoke Detector?

    You're right about using a workplane-based family. My last company used them to create duct smoke detector and duct access door families. I had no problem getting them to stick to a face of the duct.

    Unfortunately, I don't have those files anymore...

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    Default Re: Best Template for Duct Smoke Detector?

    Thank you both for the input.

    I went ahead and tried a workplane-based family, even though they didn't work so well in the past. Previously, I had some connectors go winging off into space when the family was inserted and rotated. But this family doesn't need connectors, and a workplane-based family worked even better than I hoped! It even sticks to faces in linked files!

    Thank again!

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