Column to Beam Connection - Plan & Section Representation

[G_J]

In general terms, most consulting engineers would show a roof framing plan for example as thick lines. The beams would not be double lines in fine mode, but single thick lines in course mode. At a 1:100 plan you would expect to see something like the attached image (Plan View No Cut) with a space between the beam and column.

The problem comes when you have a sloping column, and on section view you want the column to be shown butted up against the column face with maybe a 10mm gap like the attached image (Section View Cut) it looks good in section but the representation on plan view isn't that great, the beam and column are joined together (refer to attached image Plan View Cut) This isn't how we want our documentation to look.

The best option for plan view is to not cut the beam in section, but then the problem is in section view the column/beam connection looks poor (see attached image Section View No Cut)


My question is, how do we get around this problem? How are other companies using Revit to provide a set of construction documents that look correct in all views?

Is it possible to nest a masking region into the column families with visibility parameters so you can turn on the mask in plan view and turn off the mask in section?


Regards


Glenn Jowett

[JH75]

Hi,
I have created another parameter in our beam families that allow us to chnage the cutback of the stick line in plan view.
J

[Craig_L]

I didnt take a look at that family provided, but failing that working you could try using the coping tool, and altering the coping distance. I think the beam showing poorly in plan is due to seeing the end face included in the plan view which extends the line whereas with the coping tool it will cut that face back flush with the vertical member. (hope that makes sense)

[G_J]

Thanks for the family, I will have a look at it.

As far as the coping tool goes, it only works on beam to beam connections...... As far as I am aware? I cannot get it to work on beam to column connections.


Regards

[Galadriel]

what I've done is in the element properties instead of changing the start and end levels offset I had changed the z-direction justification to other and change my z-direction offset value to the elevation that I need.
hope that helps.

[scowsert]

It can be done, this is using the stock components. Make sure that the "component end" (blue dot in picture) lives within your column, then use the drag handle Blue <> and drag that into the column. I then placed a reference plane against the column edge and cut the beam with that reference plane.

Clear as mud?

I think your component end "blue dot" isn't within your column space.