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    Question Thickened Slab Edge

    Curious, how would any of you create a thickened slab edge to be used under interior masonry partitions? Can you create a Family for this? A new footing type perhaps, a sweep under all the partitions or something?

    Thanks for sharing, kinda of at a cross roads here.

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    On a recent project, I just used the regular footing tool. It didn't look 100% correct in section, as the sides of the footing were vertical instead of angled, but it got the point across, and it was MUCH faster than trying to draft filled regions in my sections or trying to apply a sweep to individual walls. The footing from the footing tool also automatically cleaned up nicely with my floor slab.

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    We use a sweep profile to the underside of the wall. As long as the sweep is the same material as the floor slab you can join geometry and it will work OK.
    In section though you will have to use your linework tool to "make invisible" one small join line between the sweep profile and slab.

    At least it looks correct.
    In an ideal world, it would be nice to have this as a foundation, but that doesn't seem to be the case or even possible, but hey, we get ribbons so all is OK!!

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    I too, like Andrew, use the floor sweep tool. I have a number of different profiles in the template file to handle the different types of rebates etc.

    Nice and easy, gives me a good generic result for the sections & I then only need to add a filled region for the stiffening beams & some notes referring to the engineers design etc & its a done deal.

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    But, what if the floor is sloped..?

    I had not realized until now that I cannot create a Floor Slab Edge on a sloped side.

    What I am trying to do is create a 2' tall concrete bumper along my sloped parking garage walls... ANY IDEAS..??

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Houle View Post
    But, what if the floor is sloped..?

    I had not realized until now that I cannot create a Floor Slab Edge on a sloped side.

    What I am trying to do is create a 2' tall concrete bumper along my sloped parking garage walls... ANY IDEAS..??
    Make sure your floor is flat before applying the slab edge. Once applied, you can edit your floor and make it slope again. The slab edge will follow.

    Andre Carvalho

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    That is great to know. Thanks..!


    IF you have a second to look,,, is that how you would approach the attached condition..??

    (Trying to follow slope of floor with short conc. wall...)
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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Houle View Post
    That is great to know. Thanks..!


    IF you have a second to look,,, is that how you would approach the attached condition..??

    (Trying to follow slope of floor with short conc. wall...)
    You can make it as two separated walls (the CMU as one and the concrete as the other) and edit their profile in elevation to follow the sloped slab. Then join them...

    Andre Carvalho

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    Another good answer...

    Unfortunately, I have about 200 walls in the floor plan all trying to follow the slopes of 3 or 4 large slabs... That is why I was thinking Floor Slab Edge... But of course I do not have slab edges beneath all my walls... ugh.

    I guess I am looking at a Line Based model family..?

    All these options seem more tedious than Revit usually requires... hmm.

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    Default Re: Thickened Slab Edge

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Houle View Post
    Another good answer...

    Unfortunately, I have about 200 walls in the floor plan all trying to follow the slopes of 3 or 4 large slabs... That is why I was thinking Floor Slab Edge... But of course I do not have slab edges beneath all my walls... ugh.

    I guess I am looking at a Line Based model family..?

    All these options seem more tedious than Revit usually requires... hmm.
    There are always other options...

    You could even create the concrete wall as a railing, that can be hosted by the floor and will fix itself whenever the floor slope changes (if ever). Line based families wouldn't trim properly when changing orientation.

    Another option you may want to consider is to copy your slabs 2 feet above the original ones and simply attach the base of your concrete walls to the slab below and attach the top of your concrete walls to the slab above. All your 200 Walls would be easily controlled by those extra slabs. To get rid of the extra slabs and avoid them showing in your drawings, just hide it. It can be easily achieved by creating two phases before the phases of your project. Call it slab creation and the other slab demolition. Set the extra slabs as created under the phase slab creation and demolished under the phase slab demolition. You wouldn't see it in your project because the extra slabs were demolished even before you project started... Got it?

    Andre Carvalho

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