Home use

[cadtag]

OK it's March year end is April and the drawing have to be completed or the bill is picked up by the company not the client. You have a family member in hospital and don't have the option of moving your days off past the deadline. This IT manager still wanted to go against the Civils manager, engineering manager and divisional director?...

So the company should be put at risk of getting grief from the SBA or Autodesk anti-piracy folk because the civil project manager is incapable of planning out how to get a job out on time and in budget or simply too incompetenet to do so? A CIO is supposed to be looking out for the company's best interests over the long term. The project manager is supposed to get the projects out the door on time and with a profit. Different jobs, with different goals. Remember the 7 Ps....

Autodesk have a time limit on the installation, the programme will stop working after that anyway.

True, very very true -- which makes the subscrition home use agreement verbiage inexcusable. Autodesk is at no realistic risk of a Subscription HULA being grossly abused. After 6 months or whatever, the program will simply quit working. So Why Oh Why does the agreement put all the onus of compliance on the license holder - When that holder has zero ability to touch a disharged employee's computer, and Autodesk has every ability to limit the use of the software?

You don't have to pay for upgrades with subscription.

Not true -- you're paying in advance, for an upgrade that may or may not happen, and may or may not be beneficial to your operation. Sorta like buying something hidden under a blanket, with a sales guy that tells you ' it will be really really good sometime next year if we ever do it'.

[Statler]

So the company should be put at risk of getting grief from the SBA or Autodesk anti-piracy folk because the civil project manager is incapable of planning out how to get a job out on time and in budget or simply too incompetenet to do so? A CIO is supposed to be looking out for the company's best interests over the long term. The project manager is supposed to get the projects out the door on time and with a profit. Different jobs, with different goals. Remember the 7 Ps....[/I]'.

In some companies it is possibly true about incompetent planning but in this case its due to the Governments financial stimulus package increasing our workload by at least a third and no business at the moment is going to say they've got enough work.

The It manager I feel is either obstructive, clueless about autodesk products or incompetent. This is just the latest in a catalogue of errors that have cost the company a lot of money

[ArchCADMonkey89]

Where I work I have a "CAD Workstation" and then I have my desk which is where I run my company issued laptop, that I can take with me and work on at home. Now, I am the only CAD person in my firm and I am curious as to if my laptop could technically fall under the "Home Use" rule. My firm used to have 2 seats of AutoCAD Architecture and 2 of AutoCAD LT, one of each has expired and costs a chunk of change to renew (not to mention the late fee for not renewing within 90 days) We use the LT version for one other employee to be able to view DWGS, but I am the only one to use the Architecture license.

[cadtag]

if it's a company issued laptop, you should be good to go w/o needing to go the home use subscription benefit route. IIRC Adesk's license agreement specifically includes the option of installing on both a desktop and a laptop (for portable use). Theory being that's it unfeasible to run both at the same time, so a user who spends part of his time at the office, and part of the time working outside, does not need two licenses. This only apllies to company owned equipment, eg you can't load up Acad on your own laptop w/o the home use agreement.

[reikajapan]

if it's a company issued laptop, you should be good to go w/o needing to go the home use subscription benefit route. IIRC Adesk's license agreement specifically includes the option of installing on both a desktop and a laptop (for portable use). Theory being that's it unfeasible to run both at the same time, so a user who spends part of his time at the office, and part of the time working outside, does not need two licenses. This only apllies to company owned equipment, eg you can't load up Acad on your own laptop w/o the home use agreement.

I have read the 2013 Eula and the part about it being the companies laptop is not in there. They have 4 conditions that have to be met and none of them say anything about who owns the second computer.

Bottom line, every release has a new EULA, be sure to read the applicable one before proceeding.

[Wanderer]

Under section 2.1.1 of AMEP 2013 EULA:

... no license is granted ... (d) for Installation of the Licensed Materials on any Computer other than a Computer owned or leased, and controlled by Licensee, unless otherwise authorized in writing by Autodesk

Sounds like it still has to be owned or leased by the company.

[Norton_cad]

The It manager I feel is either obstructive, clueless about autodesk products or incompetent. This is just the latest in a catalogue of errors that have cost the company a lot of money

We have all 3 qualities in our IT section too. ~Slaps forhead~

[White127]

Under section 2.1.1 of AMEP 2013 EULA:


Sounds like it still has to be owned or leased by the company.

Sounds to me like the HULA is written permission. Of course no one will know for sure till the lawyers get paid.