Ok, I need to bend line in more then 1 axis at a time. I have both a vertical and horizontal curve at the same time. Every attempt that I have done will not allow me to accomplish this. I am looking for possible solutions, but even with Helixes, the two curves I am producing are vastly different. the vertical is long and gradual parabolic curves, but I need to sweep them horizontally without losing the vertical curve. I have been able to do this using Intersection, but this approach is not practical. In 3DS max this would be easy using the hose tool, but as of yet I can't figure a "easy" way to do this, and I have a ton of these to do. Any of you 3D wizards got any ideas on how I can do this? Unfortunately there is no consistency in the length of the curves, or the depth. More over, the sweeps also vary in length and in locations along the curve. So I won't be doing a lot of copy and paste. I know there are probably better 3D modeling software more geared for things like wiring or soft hoses with multiple bends, but I am stuck using AutoCAD 2007. Also the end results are funky. I have to stack these cables into bundles, and then separate them all out at the ends of the curves. So each and every cable has to be drawn out separately and extruded along that path also separately. All I see is a mountain of time. So hopefully someone out there has some ideas. Here are some things I have already tried, but had no success in. 3D Spline, 3D poly, and Intersecting Solids. Once my 3d model is completed, it is to be imported and super imposed over the structure in Revit. This is new territory for my company, and I am about the only one here with any real 3D experience, but this is different than what i have dealt with before. I can't create meshes for this application,nor can I just put in a bunch of segmental solids to fake the actual design. So, any ideas?