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    Default AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Hi everyone -

    Here's the benchmarking / journal file from the presentation at AU 2007 entitled "AB300-2P_Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines".

    Expect it to take about 10-20 minutes to run.

    Please feel free to post hardware type (laptop / workstations), settings and results - including Total Time.

    UPDATE: Here's the link to the session documentation (including benchmark results). You'll need to log in to see and download the files:

    http://au.autodesk.com/sessions/detail/989/

    Thanks again -

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Hi Phil, won't be at AU this year but happy to post the results.

    15" MacBook Pro 2.16 w/ 3GB RAM
    1.5 GB RAM for Parallels 3.0 virtual machine
    No bootcamp partition, always running virtually

    Here are the results from the CSV file (it's attached, too.)

    12, opening and loading the custom template
    12, creating the floors levels and grids.
    50, creating a group of walls and doors
    86, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    34, creating the exterior curtain wall
    13, creating the sections
    15, changing the curtain wall panel type
    14, creating a perspective view
    5, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
    42, changing the levels height
    108, update group to maintain level to level height
    102, render a 3d view
    288,export different views
    9,save the project

    Total: 790
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    Last edited by Bruce McCallum; 2007-11-27 at 03:11 AM.

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Here are my results for Boot Camp and VM Fusion.

    MacPro Dual Quad 3Ghz, 5GB Ram WinXP Pro 32, NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB

    Boot Camp Partition:

    6, opening and loading the custom template
    9, creating the floors levels and grids.
    31, creating a group of walls and doors
    55, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    21, creating the exterior curtain wall
    10, creating the sections
    11, changing the curtain wall panel type
    9, creating a perspective view
    4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
    27, changing the levels height
    66, update group to maintain level to level height
    35, render a 3d view
    164,export different views
    5,save the project

    TOTAL 453

    VM Fusion (Boot Camp Partition):

    10, opening and loading the custom template
    17, creating the floors levels and grids.
    41, creating a group of walls and doors
    63, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    28, creating the exterior curtain wall
    16, creating the sections
    13, changing the curtain wall panel type
    12, creating a perspective view
    4, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
    33, changing the levels height
    75, update group to maintain level to level height
    81, render a 3d view
    207,export different views
    7,save the project

    TOTAL 607

    BTW I ran it twice with the Boot camp partition only and noticed that the numbers varied, some were one digit lower and some were one digit higher.
    Last edited by Henry D; 2007-11-27 at 10:21 PM.

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Those of you running Parallels, are you running the Beta or the Build 5570 or the standard 3.0 version?. If you are running the Beta, are there issues or if you are not, is there a reason you are not running the Beta?

    We are trying to figure out what to run with OS X Leopard.

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    I would like to the the comparison of Boot Camp, Parallels & Fusion. Which is the faster virtual machine, Parallels or Fusion?

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Quote Originally Posted by BomberAIA View Post
    I would like to the the comparison of Boot Camp, Parallels & Fusion. Which is the faster virtual machine, Parallels or Fusion?

    I am working on setting up Parallels on my machine, and then I could give a comparison.
    Fusion seems very stable, however for me to use it for Revit they still need to iron out some issues:

    -No Open GL (big one for me)
    -Wacom Tablet doesn't work properly in Revit and the solutions VM support gives are too complicated for me to mess around with
    -Have to keep reactivating Revit, when you go from Boot Camp and Fusion

    So for now I am using Revit in the Boot Camp partition only. I also don't like giving up 25% of the extra speed I get when I am using Boot Camp.

    On the plus side, the VM Fusion team is very enthusiastic and agressive at running down any issues. So, I am confident that they will solve these issues in subsequent versions.

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Something to keep in mind is that the Fusion and Parallels folks have slightly different technology under the hood.

    Fusion can make use of multiple processors, while Parallels doesn't yet (and from talking to some Fusion developers it's going to be a hard thing for them to do based on their approach). So if you're rendering a lot that's going to make a difference. Notice that the Fusion machines so far have been clocking in faster with the rendering step than the Parallels ones.

    So then if you're rendering a lot I'd suggest you use Boot Camp to get full-speed. Or export out your work to something that renders on OS X, I do believe that Maxwell and vRay both have OS X versions, and I know that Mental Ray does (but you have to pay extra for it). One nice thing about that approach is that you're not held back by XP32's stupid limitations, nor do you have to deal with the driver issues of XP64 or Vista.

    With that said I use Parallels. I've found so far that it's got nicer features and it supports Revit pretty well.

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    Are you all just using the 3.0 version and not the Beta?

    Kevin

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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    I'll run the test on the Boot Camp partition later to compare...

    MacBookPro
    2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    2 Gigs ram
    Windows XP Pro on Parallels 3.0 (not the beta, latest build)

    12, opening and loading the custom template
    13, creating the floors levels and grids.
    52, creating a group of walls and doors
    84, modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    43, creating the exterior curtain wall
    14, creating the sections
    16, changing the curtain wall panel type
    15, creating a perspective view
    6, changing the curtain wall panel pleat
    43, changing the levels height
    101, update group to maintain level to level height
    100, render a 3d view
    356,export different views
    14,save the project
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    Default Re: AB300-2P Running Revit Architecture in Virtual Machines

    I downloaded VM Fusion yesterday and installed it. I could not get my mouse or keyboard to respond when I was in the XP startup screen. So I finally uninstalled it. I'll stick to Boot Camp.

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