Nested Families

[phil.156294]

I have a family that I am trying to create that has a nested family in it. I am trying to create a wall embed that consists of a metal plate with headed concrete anchors. I have made the headed concrete anchors as a seperate family and then loaded that fmaily into the family that I am using to create the embed plate.

I figured if I made the headed concrete anchors a seperate fmaily I would be able to use them in other families.

Here is my question. I have create shared parameters in the headed concrete family so i can schedule the diameter, length, and type of anchor. What I am having an issue with is being able to schedule the shared parameters of the headed concrete family when it is loaded (or nested) into the embed plate family.

Can these shared parameters from the headed concrete anchors family be scheduled from the embed plate family?

[benmay]

Simple Answer, yes you can schedule nested familes

You just need two requirements met,

1. You have checked the shared option for the family category and parameters
2. You have set the catergory to something that can schedule

Cheers,

Ben

[NKramer]

What Ben said will work from a purely scheduling point of view. However this will not allow you to control the nested family (parameters and types) inside of the host family or project.

You may also want to load those same parameters into the host family and then link them up to the nested family (select the family- element properties - find the parameter and then click on the little "..." box that shows up when you select the parameter value; this will bring up a dialogue box that shows the available parameters in the host family that you can link to). This requires a little extra work but will allow you to control the nested parameters inside of the host family (i.e. switch out bolt sizes without having to go in and edit the nested family or create a separate instance for each type which would have to be controlled with visibility parameters...)

Nick

[priitl22047477]

Is it possible to control the length of nested beam family?

[NKramer]

Is it possible to control the length of nested beam family?

Yes. Select the nested family (in the project browser or after it is placed) > element properties > go to the parameter that you want to link to a current family parameter > click the little box to the far right > pick your parameter > ok out.

These screen captures are from 09. 2010 is the same process just different looking dialogue boxes.

Nick

[priitl22047477]

I have no problem with other things , but with length. I fail to attach the beam to reference planes , when I insert it it , starts a life of its own. usually resets default length.

See attached pictures.

Any suggestions? ideas?
Has anyone done something similar?

[Scott Wilson]

Are you using one of the out-of-the-box beam families? You should probably create your own "beam" family (that isn't line-based) and nest that instead. That way you can link the length parameter to your host file.

[priitl22047477]

I real life i did it as you suggested. (finished project)
I just thought maybe someone has solved how to make it work with default beam families.

Seems that there is no way to control the structual framing component end position?

(how about analytical model :) )

[djn]

I have found the same thing. You can't constrain the length of a nested beam.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=103770


Are you using one of the out-of-the-box beam families? You should probably create your own "beam" family (that isn't line-based) and nest that instead. That way you can link the length parameter to your host file.

So are telling me that I have to recreate all the AISC shape that come with Revit so I will be able to nest them. Very efficient.

[Scott Wilson]

So are telling me that I have to recreate all the AISC shape that come with Revit so I will be able to nest them. Very efficient.

No. Just use the same profile family that is used in the beam family. If you need all of the AISC shapes, you can copy and rename the beam type catalog to work with the new nested family.

[djn]

I not talking about each type I am talking about each AISC family.

[priitl22047477]

I have found the same thing. You can't constrain the length of a nested beam.

http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=103770
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Thank you for the link.