Revit Advice Needed!!

[andy.77473]

Hello everybody,

I've recently started using revit and have just about completed my first full building model/project. I'm quite impressed with the software, aside from a few problems that i cant seem to get around!! This is a live project and time is pressing so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

1) My first problem sounds very simple but is prooving quite tricky!! I need to put a curved soldier course above each of the doors and windows, how should I go about this as the sweeps only seem to go vertical or horizontal in parralell lines!!

2) I've created a roof (actualy 2 that wont join for some reason, but that isnt the problem!) with the correct construction layers etc. The problem is with the side elevations, the roof construction flys through the walls which is not what i want! All i want on the side elevations is to show the edge of the roof tile with the brickwork running up to it. I have tried constructing a thin roof using the tile thickness which looks ok in the elevations, but it screws the building section up which is crucial for headroom! I also tried creating 2 roofs via extrusion one on top of the other, one the thickness of the tiles, the other the remaining thickness of the roof construction, but again this caused problems with the front of the building with the ventillated corbelled eaves, which leads to problem 3!

3) What method should I use to place a dentil course to the eaves of the front of the building? I have tried making a sweep the width of one brick, then arraying/coppying it along the wall but it wont let me!!

Any help with these three matters would be greatly appreciated as the appearence of the building is crucial for planning reasons and I'm being pressured to produce the drawings quickly!!!

I have attached the eaves detail that I am trying to achieve at the front of the building.

Again, thanks for any help!!

Andy Ward

[tjk0225]

I think for the curved soldier course and the dentil molding I would use an in-place family. On the modeling menu select component and the the "create in place" button on the option bar.

I'm not sure I understand the roof problem enough to be of any help.

Good Luck!

[Rhythmick]

#2 - Are Your side roof elevations hip or gable condition?

[SkiSouth]

Hello everybody,

I've recently started using revit and have just about completed my first full building model/project. I'm quite impressed with the software, aside from a few problems that i cant seem to get around!! This is a live project and time is pressing so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

1) My first problem sounds very simple but is prooving quite tricky!! I need to put a curved soldier course above each of the doors and windows, how should I go about this as the sweeps only seem to go vertical or horizontal in parralell lines!!



Andy,

Revit 70 allows for a radial array in a family!!! Yeah!!!. Anyway, attached is a quick hack for a project where I am documenting a 1920's bldg for remodel. It is a brick infill for a window opening. You can use this, modify it or study it to see one way to handle your brick arches...

[andy.77473]

Thanks for the replies!


#2 - Are Your side roof elevations hip or gable condition?

The side elevations are gable.

Skisouth - thanks for the brick infill detail. Unfortunately I cant open it!! It says that it was made in a later version of revit!?! I'm currently using 6.1

[Rhythmick]

#2 - One method I've used for your gable condition would be to edit the roof back to the inside of your side walls then add separate extruded roofs (your tiled only roof) for the overhangs or over your plate line in this case. Using your side elevatation views to create your extrusion, set your extrusion line copied over the top line of your existing roof and set your plane, depth and roof parameters accordingly. Attach the side walls to the new roof sections. Join the new roof sections to the existing, use the align tool to adjust the tile hatching to match.

Another method that may work would be to edit the roof back to the outside wall core and add a facia sweep that would be your tile end then edit the wall profile up to the bottom of your sweep.

Hope this helps,

Mike Lenz
Genuine Homes Corp

[SkiSouth]

Thanks for the replies!



The side elevations are gable.

Skisouth - thanks for the brick infill detail. Unfortunately I cant open it!! It says that it was made in a later version of revit!?! I'm currently using 6.1

Update!!! - You cannot do a radial array in a family without it. Otherwise as was stated above you CAN make an inplace family and array in a radial in a project.

As far as your roof problems. Make your roof section structure thick as you need, do a void sweep along the edge of the roof to extract the "extra" thickness of the structure.
Cut the roof with the void. I think that will work, but you'll probably take a hit in performance.

Update - looked at your file since the post. Change your approach. Use the wall to offset the brick to close the gap, then a sweep on the roof with gutter atttached. Should be "do able"

[PeterJ]

I have used a roof fascia as a means of getting an overhang. I attach one that I have used to make gutters etc work, it is a parametric profile that can be set to the overhang you want, the angle of the roof and the thickness of the tile body. You can use a similar trick to get your gable detail to work, just make it tolerably wide so that it covers the wall, do bear in mind that if you cut the roof back to behind the wall you will probably need to edit the wall profile as it will no longer join the roof automatically.